Anyone with a Xerox 8830 that uses Wipeout entities? Nobody here's used Wipeouts in the past and I was looking at implementing them here for a couple things but when plotted to a Xerox 8830, they plot with a light dot pattern. Tried the most up to date drivers (both Windows system drivers & HDI) but have the same result. Even tried using an HP Designjet 750 driver in AutoCAD mapped to the Xerox and it does the same thing. Using that same driver mapped to our Kip printer, it comes out fine. Sounds like a hardware issue to me. Anyone else experience this? How (if at all) did you fix it? Short of not using Wipeouts or using a different wide format device that is. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
A variety of problems can crop up when using wipeouts. I've had problems with them being solid black on our Xerox printer. My solution might just work for you. Especially with the Xerox 8830. Define a new plotter selecting "Raster File formats" under Manufacturers and "TIFF Version 6 (CCITT G4 2D Compression)" under Models. Select "to File" for its output destination. Configure the new plotter for your paper size by adding a your custom paper size (in pixels/inch * inches). My 22" x 34" paper is 10400pixels x 6600 pixels for my chosen resoultion of 300 px/in (same as dpi). Plot a window or limits that is exactly the size of your paper. I use paper space at 1:1 but I believe a proportionally scaled area would do the same. You probably have the Xerox Document Submit tool with your 8830 but if not you can download a free tiff submission tool from xerox that will make it very easy to send the file to your plotter. Since the file is a TIFF image with a fixed size exactly matching your paper size it should print centered, with any device required margins cropped. This works very well for me. And, when I send mine to print on 11x17 paper. The print is a perfect half size print. I am having a little problem with batch plots using a script. I posted a new thread about that today.
I think you have to use a postscript driver to get the wipeouts to work... Thanks for the heads up Joel. I'll give that a whirl when I get a little breathing room in my schedule. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
Well, it's a firmware issue on the printer controller. I think it will be fixed in AccXES version 10.0, but I'm not 100% sure. ScottR
I was just about to post the same thing this morning. I have an Oce TDS600 and I just noticed this morning that our wipeouts have been getting a light dot pattern as well! We're using the raster type wipeout. I don't understand why the Oce would want to give them a dot pattern... I'll be checking today for firmware upgrades as well. It's very subtle... no one had noticed it in months that we've had the Oce.. but still unacceptable.
I was just about to post the same thing this morning. I have an Oce TDS600 Ours (on the Xerox 8830) is very noticeable. Luckily, 99% of all plots to customers go to to our KIP and not the 8830. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
And the only concerns I have is the light dot pattern going out on plans to the registry... but we do those on inkjet anyhow. I suppose I could start using the "solid" type wipeout and set it to a noplot color in our pen table.
And the only concerns I have is the light dot pattern going out on plans to FYI, With the help of our repro firm who we lease our Xerox 8830 from, here's how to get rid of that blasted dot pattern on the wipeout entities.... You need to install the latest Windows System Printer drivers for an HP DesignJet 750c. Whatever ships on your AutoCAD 2004 or 2004 based vertical should work). When installing the driver, point it to your Xerox 8830's tcp/ip port. From AutoCAD, you can then plot to that System Printer directly or create a PC3 file based on that Windows System Printer. This should clear up that dot pattern. If you need help walking through the driver installation, let me know and I'd see if I can't jot the steps I took down on paper. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
This is a problem with the firmware. I have talked with one of the system analysis at Xerox and he said they are working on a fix and will be released in a new firmware build. He knows this will be released for the HFT controller, but it may not be released for the N5T controller since it is old and not being made any longer. He said once the other firmware is released he is going to try to get an updated version for the N5T controller. If you don't know what controller you have, look for the serial number on the back of the printer. The first 3 letters/numbers are the type of controller. This same problem happens on the 8825 and the new 510dp. I have also seen it on the Oce TDS400.
This is a problem with the firmware. I have talked with one of the system Thanks for the info Tom. You can get around it (at least for the 8830) by using the Windows System driver for an HP 750c mapped to the 8830. I do believe we have the N5T controller on our unit. -- Darren J. Young CAD/CAM Systems Developer Cold Spring Granite Company 202 South Third Avenue Cold Spring, Minnesota 56320 Email: Phone: (320) 685-5045 Fax: (320) 685-5052
The HP 1055CM driver also works for this purpose but it will not let you mirror the image to plot on mylar. Do you know if the 750 driver allows you to mirror the image?
You can use dview to look your drawing from back in one layout and plot that on mylar. I have done it sometimes. Matti
