wildfire; "collapse the browser"?

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by CHale, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. CHale

    CHale Guest

    I wish I could say this is the last dumb question I'll ever ask
    here...

    but, how exactly is one supposed to "collapse the browser" window in
    Wildfire? The only way I've found to do that is to close the part
    out, open it back, and the browser will indeed be collapsed. But I
    don't find that e.g. the "close" button in the browser is available
    (it's grayed out, not functional); that would be sensible it seems to
    me, but it won't work! I can imagine there is some transparently
    obvious way you're supposed to do this, but I don't know what it is.
    Thanks--C. Hale
     
    CHale, Apr 23, 2004
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  2. CHale

    David Janes Guest

    : I wish I could say this is the last dumb question I'll ever ask
    : here...
    :
    : but, how exactly is one supposed to "collapse the browser" window in
    : Wildfire? The only way I've found to do that is to close the part
    : out, open it back, and the browser will indeed be collapsed. But I
    : don't find that e.g. the "close" button in the browser is available
    : (it's grayed out, not functional); that would be sensible it seems to
    : me, but it won't work! I can imagine there is some transparently
    : obvious way you're supposed to do this, but I don't know what it is.
    : Thanks--C. Hale

    The browser window is a 'flyout' from the left side of the window frame. You
    should see arrows on the left side of the graphics/browser window. Click on the
    arrow. The browser should 'roll' right back up into the frame. I can't verify that
    it works this way on Unix workstations, but it does in Windows.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Apr 23, 2004
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  3. CHale

    CHale Guest

    That's the ticket, all right, thanks. I never <clicked> on the little
    arrows, only <dragged> them...doh. Thanks--Charley
     
    CHale, Apr 23, 2004
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  4. CHale

    hamei Guest



    Got any suggestions on how to get rid of the idiot thing entirely ? :-(

    And does anyone have even the vaguest klew of WHY ptc chose the world's
    ugliest colors and fonts to use for default settings in Wildfire ?
     
    hamei, Apr 25, 2004
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  5. CHale

    David Janes Guest

    : David Janes wrote:
    : > :
    : > : but, how exactly is one supposed to "collapse the browser" window in
    : > : Wildfire?
    : >
    : > The browser window is a 'flyout' from the left side of the window frame. You
    : > should see arrows on the left side of the graphics/browser window. Click on
    the
    : > arrow. The browser should 'roll' right back up into the frame. I can't verify
    that
    : > it works this way on Unix workstations, but it does in Windows.
    :
    :
    :
    : Got any suggestions on how to get rid of the idiot thing entirely ? :-(
    :
    Not quite entirely, but maybe close enough. In Pro/e, 'Tools>Customize
    screen>Browser tab', uncheck 'Expand Browser by default while loading Pro/E'. You
    won't see it again unless you click on those window frame handles.

    : And does anyone have even the vaguest klew of WHY ptc chose the world's
    : ugliest colors and fonts to use for default settings in Wildfire ?

    Tastless Unix goofs who maybe invented the screen colors, fonts, etc. for HPUX and
    have complete contempt for users of any software anywhere in the world? Just a
    guess. Oh, and my all-time favorite is the micro print in their version of a file
    navigator. Pro/GOOFY stikes again!

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Apr 25, 2004
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  6. CHale

    hamei Guest

    Thanks ! I'll save this one.


    Disagree there ... Wildfire is a change TOWARDS the
    "Windows-native" interface. When it was v20 or 2000i2
    or 2001 it wasn't half bad-looking. HP-UX tho, yuck.
    Or AIX is even worse. I agree :)
     
    hamei, Apr 26, 2004
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  7. I just found it. Under "tools" "customize screen" and then the
    "browser" tab, there is a box you can uncheck that says something about
    "Expand browser by default when opening Pro/E" Make sure that box is
    unchecked and say good-bye to that browser.

    Robert L. Alexander
    Sauder Woodworking Co.
    Ph. 419.446.3221
    Fx. 419.446.4978


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of hamei
    Posted At: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:49 PM
    Posted To: comp.cad.pro-engineer
    Conversation: wildfire; "collapse the browser"?
    Subject: Re: wildfire; "collapse the browser"?

    Thanks ! I'll save this one.


    Disagree there ... Wildfire is a change TOWARDS the
    "Windows-native" interface. When it was v20 or 2000i2
    or 2001 it wasn't half bad-looking. HP-UX tho, yuck.
    Or AIX is even worse. I agree :)
     
    Bob Alexander, May 6, 2004
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  8. CHale

    hamei Guest



    Yup, thanks to both of you. Now, another earth-shaking appearance issue :)

    Default screen color could probably be described as light puke. The "original
    Pro/E Screen Colors" option is okay, but I kinda like adjusting the blended
    colors myself. That part is easy. Then I save it. Whoopee, I *thought* I saved
    it ... Pro/E must put the saved settings someplace, but damned if I can figure
    out where. Next time you open it, back to the special 'dissected-worm' color.
    There's a config.pro setting for a straight color, but the blend is pretty.
    A pretty computer is a happy computer.

    Any idears ?
     
    hamei, May 7, 2004
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  9. CHale

    David Janes Guest

    : Default screen color could probably be described as light puke. The "original
    : Pro/E Screen Colors" option is okay, but I kinda like adjusting the blended
    : colors myself. That part is easy. Then I save it. Whoopee, I *thought* I saved
    : it ... Pro/E must put the saved settings someplace, but damned if I can figure
    : out where. Next time you open it, back to the special 'dissected-worm' color.

    So, probably in whatever working directory you werer in when you saved it, you
    have a file called syscol.scl which contains all your system colors settings,
    including whether to use the blended background and any editing you've done to
    spif it up. Now, all you have to do is go into config.pro and set the option
    system_colors_file to this file. Actually, it probably doesn't even matter what
    you call this file as long as this option points to it. It's just a text file with
    values for the option eqivalents of system_background_color, system_curve_color,
    system_volume_color, etc.

    : There's a config.pro setting for a straight color, but the blend is pretty.
    : A pretty computer is a happy computer.

    I agree, which is why I even change the sketcher background/foreground color
    schemes to something a little more civilized than scratching chalk on a
    blackboard. A hangover (holdover? no, hangover) from the 'good ole days' of 16
    color graphics cards? And half the time it can't even do that right, losing
    tables, dimensions and whole views behind the black background. It's so 80s!

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, May 7, 2004
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  10. CHale

    nettles Guest

    After saving the color file, load it in the config file with the option
    "system_colors_file", then browse to the color file you just created.
     
    nettles, May 7, 2004
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  11. CHale

    hamei Guest


    Thanks guys. I musta been being naive that day ... I shoulda realized
    that not only do you have to save the file (which worked fine) but then
    you have to hunt around for the config.pro secret handshake so that
    the Pro will remember to use the file it just saved :)

    anyway .... one small step for Man, etc etc
     
    hamei, May 9, 2004
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