what are some of the major differences Acad vs Microstation?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by labicff, Feb 15, 2006.

  1. labicff

    labicff Guest

    what are some of the major differences Autocad vs Microstation? Easier
    to work with or depends on application.

    labicff, Feb 15, 2006
  2. labicff

    sw Guest

    Microstation is an excellent tool for extremely large files. I've been with
    an office that uses both and when they had projects which were miles long
    (site planning proposals) the Microstation was used. Municipal clients who
    have large data bases tend to like microstation as well. I've heard people
    say it's much easier to use than autocad once you train on it. People
    struggle getting potential employees for the stations.
    sw, Feb 15, 2006
  3. labicff

    nobody Guest

    The file sizes in Microstation are smaller because it is raster-based
    VS vector-based like ACAD. A line is made up of pixels in MS, not line
    segments as in ACAD. In Microstation, lineweights are always "on". In
    ACAD, most people do not draw in modelspace with the "LWT" button on
    but do lineweights in their plotter settings. If you have ever opened
    up a drawing in MS, it looks like a 1st grader with thick magic
    markers performed the linework. Once you zoom way in, the lines look
    llike they do in ACAD. Microstation is trying to become more like
    ACAD, as far as Microstation8, since you can save to .dwg and open
    ..dxf/.dwg. files but some stuff does not look the same in ACAD. One
    thing I did not like was when you single click on a line or object,
    Microstation does not show what layer the line/object is on. You can
    easily draw on the wrong layer and not know it. Drawing
    chamfers/fillets is harder in Microstation than in ACAD in my opinion.
    It is a different program to learn but like anything, once you use it
    for a few days and do the tutorials, it makes some sense. I prefer
    ACAD/Landdesktop to Microstation/GeoPak myself. In Microstation, the
    "Esc" was my friend.
    nobody, Feb 15, 2006
  4. labicff

    tomcas Guest

    Shouldn't that be- vector based file size is smaller than raster based?
    tomcas, Feb 15, 2006
  5. labicff

    Happy Trails Guest

    I have a hard time believing that anyone who has responded to this
    thread, possibly except you, knows WTF he is talking about.

    Happy Trails To You
    Happy Trails, Feb 16, 2006
  6. labicff

    tomcas Guest

    It's not rocket science. Vector = small file, Raster=large file, in
    general terms- regardless of the resolution. Yes, the higher the
    resolution the greater the difference but the magnitude of the
    difference is so great it's almost pointless to make a comparison at any
    tomcas, Feb 16, 2006
  7. labicff

    tomcas Guest

    In your infinite wisdom, please point out my errors since you think no
    other responses know WTF they are talking about.
    tomcas, Feb 17, 2006
  8. labicff

    gegematic Guest

    Some things i 've forgot about microstation:
    - It as always been easier to customize than Autocad, even since Autocad have tools palettes
    Ustation have automatic cell selector (cell = block), customized style (STG) for all other entity that help you
    to have a right custom menu, so i used to make cartography with it without programming a line of code.
    to do the same with Autocad (version 14, 2000) i needed to write thousand of line code !
    But ustation have some big problems:
    - in autocad, a wblock is a dwg, it's very easy to merge files etc... ustation not
    - Autocad is multi drawing complient, ustation is single drawing
    - Autocad use window based selection files, ustation use is own interface, W3.11 like ...

    now that's all i can say without writing 6 pages !

    PowerClic : http://www.g-eaux.com/powerclic/explorer/english.html
    gegematic, Feb 17, 2006
  9. labicff

    gegematic Guest

    rj a écrit :
    I don't now, but what i can say is that in France, some big company as
    Générale des Eaux (Worldwide water companies, that use to buy universal
    music, you remember ?) use it
    and the French Electricity company EDF also use ustation.
    big company are a bentley specialty, so there is no care the company
    fall down quickly

    PowerClic : http://www.g-eaux.com/powerclic/explorer/english.html
    gegematic, Feb 17, 2006
  10. labicff

    Happy Trails Guest

    CW knew WTF he was talking about.

    Your's was an error of omission. You stayed out on the raster vs.
    vector tangent rather than challenge the ridiculous suggestion that MS
    was raster based.

    Happy Trails To You
    Happy Trails, Feb 17, 2006
  11. labicff

    remove Guest

    The way I read his post, is that he believes you are about th only one
    who DOES know what he is talking about. It IS true that raster files
    are generally many times larger than vector files. (some compression
    algorithyms can get them somewhat closer, but that's another story)

    Those responders that believe that MicroStation is raster based are
    tatally clueless and should not have been posted in the first place.

    I have been using MicroStation constantly for about 15 years and
    AutoCad very rarely over the last 3 or 4 years. While there are a few
    things that AutoCad does (did?) better, I think MicroStation is a
    better program and easier to learn. The newest versions of
    MicroStation are much closer to Autocad than previous versions (sigh)
    and will open .dwg files natively. So one big advantage of
    MicroStation is that you can work on either format - not so with

    One of the thing I find totally frustrating in AutoCad is proxy
    graphics. Third party applications in MicroStation write directly to
    the file with native graphics, so there is no need for the original
    application or plugins to see or manipulate those graphics.

    Books could (and have been) written on the differences, advantages and
    disadvantages of the two products.

    My $.02 worth
    remove, Feb 17, 2006
  12. labicff

    stuartbc Guest

    MS raster based? --- I have a bridge to sell you
    stuartbc, Feb 17, 2006
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    tomcas Guest

    I did not mention MS because I have never even used it, nor did I every
    claim to. Where you come up with my "error of omission" and then state
    that I "don't know WTF I am talking about" makes me think that it is you
    who doesn't know what they are talking about. Perhaps you should spend a
    little more time reading exactly what it is that people are saying and
    less time blowing off your big mouth.
    tomcas, Feb 18, 2006
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