threaded rod design and static load control

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Geoff, Sep 11, 2006.

  1. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    Hi,

    I've been trying to design a heavy duty threaded rod in Solidworks but
    without a lot of success. I know there is a cosmetic feature. I'm
    wondering if this cosmetic feature is used when you put a static load
    on it using cosmos.

    I would like to know if the thread will hold.

    I have to design a movable carriage wich can hold a load of several
    tons and wich can be moved on a 0.1 mm precision. I fear that an
    hydraulic system can't perform on such a precision and therefore I want
    to try a threaded rod design.

    Best regards,

    Geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 11, 2006
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  2. Geoff

    That70sTick Guest

    If you need thread geometry for FEA, it should be modelled.

    I only use cosmetic threads for fasteners. If the threads are
    functional (like feed screws), I like to have them modelled.
     
    That70sTick, Sep 11, 2006
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  3. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    If you model them, which function do you use? I've been working with SW
    for +1 month now and I'm not familiar with all of it.

    Regards,

    Geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 11, 2006
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  4. Geoff

    Bo Guest

    Go to the "Help" Menu option and work through using the "Thread" items
    where you will learn to use the "Helix" and "Sweep" items.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 11, 2006
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  5. Geoff

    Geoff Guest

    Thanks

    That helped me a lot.

    But when mating two parts together with cut-sweep and a boss-sweep I
    can't mate the thread.

    I presume I have to mate the thread to do some FEA afterwards.

    Best regards,

    Geoff
     
    Geoff, Sep 11, 2006
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  6. Geoff

    Bo Guest

    I do NOT think there is any technique to allow mating of thread faces,
    one against the other, or at least I've not heard of any. Doing a mate
    that allows a FEA stress analysis would be tricky in that situation.

    Collision detection will work on threads, but that doesn't establish a
    mate.

    Maybe someone else knows more.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Sep 12, 2006
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  7. Geoff

    Ed Guest

    Are you saying that you cut threads on the outside of the rod with a
    sweep and then you cut the same threads on the inside of the nut and
    then you had two swept surfaces to attempt to mate together? I'm not
    sure if two such surfaces would mate.

    Something that you may try first is to apply the forces to the cut
    thread surface. This may not work. But, then you could try cutting a
    series of annular rings with the same pitch as the threads. It
    probably won't make much difference if the rings are not connected
    because approximately the same amount of material should be involved.
    What is nice about the annular rings is that you should be able to
    apply forces in COSMOS to only the number of rings that would be
    engaged in the length nut that you have and the approxomate distance
    from the end of the rod.

    In the end, this may be one of those problems where the answer may be
    easier to estimate from a handbook. Probably along the lines of
    something like the mean thread diameter x pie x effective nut length
    divided by 2 x (some fudge factor like) .9 times the worst case
    expected tensile strength of the mateiral and since the failure is
    probably in sheer the resulting value should probably be divided in
    half....(which I'm not sure that COSMOS takes into consideration. But
    you should definately look this up and verify a calculated estimate
    agains COSMOS. Which is always the best practice.

    And if this is a critical application, (like holding up a bridge or a
    beam in something like the new World Trade Center Building) you will
    probalby need to do a fair amount of physical testing.

    The other alternative for this is to contact a supplier of such
    fasteners and get them to tell you what the specs are.

    Just a few ideas...
    hope this helps

    Ed
    Now if this works then
     
    Ed, Sep 12, 2006
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