Shaded With Edges Mode Problem in SP3.0

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Seth Renigar

I think I have found a minor problem in SW04 SP3.0 with the Shaded With
Edges mode.

I have always used and worked in Shaded With Edges mode since it became
available. All of my files and templates are saved this way. Since SP3.0,
I have noticed that some files that I open (about 15%) will open in Shaded
(no edges) mode. Not that big of a deal, just one of those nuisances that
should not happen.

I found something today to take this problem one step further. I have got
an assembly that has 6 parts in it. None of these had been opened since
around SW04 SP1.0. I opened each of these parts today individually with the
assembly NOT open. Out of these 6, there were 4 that opened in Shaded-No
Edges mode (which is NOT how they were saved). I then closed them all
without saving. Then I opened the assembly and it opened just like it was
saved in Shaded With Edges mode. With the assembly open this time, I opened
each of the 6 parts again and ALL of them opened properly in Shaded With
Edges mode. I then closed everything (no save) and re-opened just the parts
again. Same as before, 4 out of 6 opened in Shaded (no edges) mode. For
some reason, having the assembly open caused the parts to open in their
correct visibility mode.

Anyone seen anything like this? Solutions?
 
Hypothesis: perhaps any particular SolidWorks session presumes that if
the user is working on an Assembly in Shaded-with-edges mode (or
Shaded-no-edges) that he/she would like to work on Parts opened from
within that Assembly in the same fashion, and otherwise it opens Parts
in the manner in which they were last Saved. ?

Somebody besides me will have to pay close attention to what it's doing
.. . . I'm mostly still working with SW2003, as I find the 2004 interface
to be awkward, and also many of my standard hotkeys won't work
consistently. I've only recently "upgraded", as I held off until SP3.0
was released AND until I got a client that actually requires the new
flavor. I'm tired of getting hosed by incredibly premature releases.
This is one reason why I no longer post so many comments trying to be
helpful -- I don't work on the current release until I'm dragged kicking
and screaming into installing it. Anybody (poor, misled suckers) out
there going to try the beta of SW2005? You're a better man tham I am,
Gunga Din. Or at least you have a stronger stomach.

'Sporky'
 
Hypothesis: perhaps any particular SolidWorks session presumes that if
the user is working on an Assembly in Shaded-with-edges mode (or
Shaded-no-edges) that he/she would like to work on Parts opened from
within that Assembly in the same fashion, and otherwise it opens Parts
in the manner in which they were last Saved. ?
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I tend to disagree. Like I said in the first post, all of my files (these
files included in the word all) are saved in Shaded-with-edges mode. This
visibility setting IS a document setting and not a system setting. So
whichever mode the file was saved in should be the way it reopens. This is
definitely something that just started in SW04 SP3.0.

I do find this a nuisance, but it has not bothered me enough to do something
about it,,,,YET. I was mainly posting to see if anyone else has experienced
this problem and/or if they new of a simple fix.
 
Dale Dunn wrote:
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The purpose of the beta is to try to prevent the things that cause a
release to be premature. It can't get fixed if it's not reported.
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Oh of course. I was just ranting.
 
I am having the same problem - not a major pain so I haven't complained yet.

Do you also notice that each SP using the 'new improved' (NOT) installation
method tends to muck around with some of the system settings - e.g. hot keys
no longer work, some system options change. Again a minor pain so I haven't
said anything.

Merry :-)
 
Seth,

Check to make sure that large assembly mode is not on (Tools > Large
Assembly Mode). I have had this exact problem in a large assembly. It
seems odd that large assembly mode would come on in such a small
assembly but you never know.
 
Merry,

I have not noticed system settings changing from SP to SP. That doesn't
mean that it hasn't happened though.
 
Brad,

That doesn't seem to be the problem. I have it set to 700 parts.

Honestly, I have never had a need to use LAM. All of my assemblies are
below this number. There are some that are close, but that is why I
adjusted it from the default 600 (I think) to 700. I really don't want to
use LAM if I absolutely don't have to. My system seems to handle up to this
number quite nice.

Thanks anyway.
 
Seth Renigar said:
I think I have found a minor problem in SW04 SP3.0 with the Shaded With
Edges mode.

I have always used and worked in Shaded With Edges mode since it became
available. All of my files and templates are saved this way. Since SP3.0,
I have noticed that some files that I open (about 15%) will open in Shaded
(no edges) mode. Not that big of a deal, just one of those nuisances that
should not happen.
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I'm running SP2.1 and a number of my files open Shaded only now, so I don't
think it's a 3.0 problem.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"
 
This is interesting. I used SP2.1 for some time and don't recall this
problem starting until SP3.0. I could be wrong though.
 
Seth Renigar said:
This is interesting. I used SP2.1 for some time and don't recall this
problem starting until SP3.0. I could be wrong though.
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I hadn't noticed it until I read your message. It seems to show up more
often on my more complex parts.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"
 
With me, complexity does not cause it to happen more or not. The example
that I originally posted was 6 simple plates with a variety of holes in
them. Definitely not complex.
 
Seth Renigar said:
With me, complexity does not cause it to happen more or not. The example
that I originally posted was 6 simple plates with a variety of holes in
them. Definitely not complex.
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After I posted I realized that it was probably just coincidence that I
noticed it first on a couple of my more complex parts. I've also seen it on
relatively simple parts.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"
 
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