Scaling a block before picking insert point.

I use alot of blocks that I draw full scale and then scale up by the
dimscale. is there any way to make the block scale up so you can see the
full size it will be when placed in the drawing.

Here is an example of a weld symbol block menu syntax.

[WELD(al-arnd)]*^C^Cclayer;S-NOTES;(setq xx (getvar
"dimscale"))(initdia)(command "-insert" "//G12/Support/blocks/WELD/al-arnd"
pause XX XX "")

Rick

 

You can enter scale before picking insertion point...
(command "insert" "block name" "_scale" (dimscale) (getpoint) "rotation angle")

 

Here is what I use for my blocks in my image file:

[fillns,Fillet Near Side]^C^C-insert *fillns \(getvar "dimscale");;

This brings up my welds (exploded) in accordance with whatever my
dimscale is. Is that what you want?

 

Cool... It has been so long since I made the menus I didn't think about
looking at the command line insert command again.

Thanks
Rick

 

Walt,

Why don't you pre-specify the scale before the pause for the insertion
point? I bet your users would prefer that.

--
R. Robert Bell


Here is what I use for my blocks in my image file:

[fillns,Fillet Near Side]^C^C-insert *fillns \(getvar "dimscale");;

This brings up my welds (exploded) in accordance with whatever my
dimscale is. Is that what you want?

 

Duh - as my blocks are written, they don't insert before the dimscale
affects their size - it just appears that way. Try one and you'll see.

 

Walt,
I don't know what the "Duh" is about. Be careful you don't come
across as insulting those who are trying to help you.

Your posted menu macro

[fillns,Fillet Near Side]^C^C-insert *fillns \(getvar "dimscale");;

would not scale the block until the insertion point is chosen. So it
may or may not be visible while you are dragging it. If you rewrote
it to either scale or pre-scale the block before a drafter chooses
the insertion point, then it becomes more dynamic. If you
want to see the block as you are dragging, use two commands.
Something like: (untested)

^c^c-insert fillns s (getvar "dimscale") \;;explode L ;

Using the *name format does not allow for viewing while dragging.

 

The "duh" was about me. As far as the block is concerned, I want to pick
the insertion point(s) first as I don't want to drag it anywhere. Those
blocks are designed to be inserted at specific points or places. If I
have to move it, then that is another story altogether.

 

Whew! I'm glad I wasn't the duhnce <groan>.

Walt, you might still be missing my point. I figure you only want the block
in specific places, but why not at least see the size of the block while
placing it, instead of guessing that it might fit in the area you are
placing it?

^C^C._-Insert;FillNS;_s;(getvar "DimScale");_r;0;\._Explode;_l;

Just Toggle DimScale between 1 and 12 using both your macro, and Doug's (or
mine) to see the difference.


--
R. Robert Bell


The "duh" was about me. As far as the block is concerned, I want to pick
the insertion point(s) first as I don't want to drag it anywhere. Those
blocks are designed to be inserted at specific points or places. If I
have to move it, then that is another story altogether.

 

That is what I was looking for.
I figured there was a way I just havent looked at the command line version
of insert for a long time to figure it out.

Rick

 

Walt thanks for the help. with the help I received from the group this is
the result.

[WELD(FWL1)]*^C^Cclayer;S-NOTES;(initdia)(command "-insert"
"//G12/Support/blocks/WELD/FWL1" "scale" (getvar "dimscale") pause "")

This changes the layer first so the weld symbol is on the correct layer so
the user doesn't have to think.
Then it inserts the weld symbol scaled up to the dimscale (because it has
text in it).
And now when I pick a point the block shows up scaled ahead of picking so I
don't have to place it & then move it all of the time.

I have a question for you though.

Why do you explode your weld symbols?
I use blocks with attributes in them for the size & length of weld so I
don't have to explode them.... This creates many weld symbols but I just
pick one and fill in the blanks & when I need to move one I pick one entity
to move or pick the leader & block & stretch using grips.

Rick