saving snap mode

Discussion in 'Microstation' started by natanz, Jul 25, 2007.

  1. natanz

    natanz Guest

    when i enter a file the snap mode is set to keypoints. I want to
    change this so that every time i enter any file, the snap mode is set
    to Multi-snap 1. Is this a variable that i can control at the user
    level? How do i set it?
     
    natanz, Jul 25, 2007
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  2. natanz

    AL-MARAGHI Guest

    Hi Natanz..

    The easiest way is when you are selcting the desired snap mode, in
    same time click shift. It works for me.
    I hope it does also for you.
     
    AL-MARAGHI, Aug 1, 2007
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  3. natanz

    natanz Guest

    actually the answer was different than what either of you suggested,
    and that may be because the question was not clear. In our office we
    are trying to discourage individual users from saving settings. with
    snap mode that is a particular problem. imagine if you working on a
    team, where each user had a different preferred snap mode, and they
    were all regularly going into to drawings and changing it. you would
    never end up with your preferred mode. The problem is that
    microstation saves the snap mode with the drawing, which from this
    former autocad users perspective is bizarre, if not just plain dumb.
    So there are two possible approaches. you could write some macro,
    that ran at the opening of every drawing to set the snap mode to your
    user preference. That is beyond the scope of my capabilities at this
    point (but probably not for long. ) Well, fortunately microstation
    recognized that having the drawing set snap mode rather than user was
    errant, so they have a variable that you set at the network level to
    give control back to the user. I am mystified why bentley doesn't
    have this as the default, but here is the suggestion from Askinga.com

    you'll find a new variable that enables you to tell MicroStation where
    to get the default snap mode and multi-snap settings from.

    MS_SNAPMODE_SOURCE = 0 (or undefined) is the legacy setting whereby
    the default snap mode comes from the current design file.

    MS_SNAPMODE_SOURCE = 1 stores the default snap mode as part of the
    User Preferences and applies it to each file upon opening. In the clip
    below, pay attention to the snap mode and note how it's retained from
    file to file.
     
    natanz, Aug 1, 2007
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  4. natanz

    Ralph Hertle Guest

    natanz:


    That is not correct. The snap mode setting may be saved with the drawing
    with Save Settings. Snap settings are what they are set to be or as
    saved at any given time.

    They may be, however, also be saved as a setting that will open the next
    time MSTN is opened. The View Attributes, <ctrl-B>, Levels ON/OFF
    settings, and Snap settings, by means of [Save Settings, File Design, or
    <ctrl-F>], can be changed either with or without Save Settings. If Save
    Settings is not set to the new View Attribute values, for example, MSTN
    will next open the file with whatever settings were last saved. If view
    attributes, levels, or snaps are changed and Save Settings is set, MSTN
    will next open the file with whatever settings were last saved, e.g.,
    with the new values.

    I use Save Settings regularly, and the View Attribute settings may be
    set differently for each view and saved. The levels, level symbology
    schemes, Saved Views, windowing set-ups and perspective set-ups are also
    saved via Save Settings.

    AutoCAD has a deficiency in those areas, and it most rigidly relies upon
    the Layer table for its settings.

    You say,
    Save Settings restrictions are totally arbitrary, when in fact they are
    a most useful tool - not only for single drawings; they are greatly
    useful on large referenced projects.

    Snap Settings in MicroStation are set by choice at any given time, and
    the settings may be saved in the file by Save Settings.
    For changing the snap settings as you work, keep the Snap Menu icon
    permanently on screen. You may also tear off the entire Snap Menu and
    dock that on screen. The advantage to that is that the Accusnap switch
    is available, and that brings forth an entire range of marvelous
    selection and command possibilities for drawing in MSTN - especially in 3D.

    Without Save Settings there is no way to set and save to the file the
    view attributes, levels, level symbology, reference file level
    symbology, View Attribute settings for reference files, and view data
    windowing set-ups.

    Reference files are the all time great feature of MSTN. Reference files
    are one the several reasons why MSTN is used by the larger engineering
    firms, especially on large and complex projects. MSTN has it all over
    ACAD in that regard.

    Learn to save your active file settings and your referenced model file
    settings to good advantage with Save Settings.

    Ralph Hertle
     
    Ralph Hertle, Oct 14, 2007
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