RTEXT Justification (ah, the good old days)

[Martin Schmid]

We name our layout tabs according to the drawing 'number'.. In Acad2000 we used a beta/demo version of RTEXT that allowed justification. The RTEXT would be in the sheet title block (xref) to reflect the text in the tab, and we have a drawing title block i.e., that identifies drawing number, name, scale... see attached... in both cases, the E3.2 is RTEXT that reflects the name of the 'Layout'.

Note, however, in ADT2004, that the text is no longer middle justified... in both locations the E3.2 in the drawing is left justified. Since the RTEXT is in a block/xref, it can't be manually moved... besides, the whole reason for using RTEXT and blocks, etc., was to reduce the number of steps and increase standardization/coordination... now the capability appears to be lost.

Is there an alternate solution for ADT2004? I'm looking into ltext... but may opt to create my own.

 

[The Real JD]

I was just looking for an RTEXT justification option.
They actually had that in an old build!?
I can't imagine why they would remove that.
Looking foward to seeing a release from you.

 

[James Maeding]

Please tell me the latest rtext.arx allows justification change. That was a special compile before but it must be standard now right?

"The real JD"
|>I was just looking for an RTEXT justification option. |>They actually had that in an old build!? |>I can't imagine why they would remove that. |>Looking foward to seeing a release from you. |> |>|>> We name our layout tabs according to the drawing 'number'.. In Acad2000 |>we |>> used a beta/demo version of RTEXT that allowed justification. The RTEXT |>> would be in the sheet title block (xref) to reflect the text in the tab, |>and |>> we have a drawing title block i.e., that identifies drawing number, name, |>> scale... see attached... in both cases, the E3.2 is RTEXT that reflects |>the |>> name of the 'Layout'. |>> |>> Note, however, in ADT2004, that the text is no longer middle justified... |>in |>> both locations the E3.2 in the drawing is left justified. Since the RTEXT |>> is in a block/xref, it can't be manually moved... besides, the whole |>reason |>> for using RTEXT and blocks, etc., was to reduce the number of steps and |>> increase standardization/coordination... now the capability appears to be |>> lost. |>> |>> Is there an alternate solution for ADT2004? I'm looking into ltext... but |>> may opt to create my own. |>> |>> |>> -- |>> Thanks, |>> Martin Schmid, EIT, CCSA, MCDBA, MCSE |>> |>> |>

James Maeding
Civil Engineer/Programmer

 

[Martin Schmid]

No.. .the latest does not allow justification change...

Please tell me the latest rtext.arx allows justification change.

I could tell you that... but I would be lying..

That was a special compile before but it must be standard now right?

You'd think....

 

[Martin Schmid]

What specific functionality do you need? All I need is interpretation of a simple DIESEL expression... i.e., namely of the format $(getvar,<varname>).

 

[The Real JD]

dwgprefix dwgname date user etc etc. Yes I could use a block and a lisp routine with diesel expressions to update the block, but RTEXT updates automatically. That's what I want...

 

[Martin Schmid]

You can continue to use RTEXT as long as you don't require justification other than bottom left.... anyway, I'm working on a solution....

Thanks,
MS

 

[The Real JD]

Ideally, I would prefer right justification with Rtext. Good luck with it.
Cheers

 

[Dave Lewis]

no, here is the real story
frank used to head up the express tool development at autodesk. after the 2000 version of the express tools he made a beta that allowed for more justification options. It was ofcourse an arx that only runs in 2000, 2000i or 2002 products. Then he was let go by autodesk. Someone at autodesk recomplied the last version of the express tools for 2004 duty. So someone at autodesk must has the source code for the beta version of rtext. The person that complied the 2004 is unknown. The person who has the source code needs to be tracked down.

"The real JD"
|>Ideally, I would prefer right justification with Rtext. |>Good luck with it. |>Cheers |> |>|>> You can continue to use RTEXT as long as you don't require justification |>> other than bottom left.... anyway, I'm working on a solution.... |>> |>> Thanks, |>> MS |>> |>> |>> -- |>> Thanks, |>> Martin Schmid, EIT, CCSA, MCDBA, MCSE |>> |>> > dwgprefix dwgname date user etc etc. Yes I could use a block and a lisp |>> > routine with diesel expressions to update the block, but RTEXT updates |>> > automatically. That's what I want... |>> > |>> > |>> > > What specific functionality do you need? All I need is interpretation |>> of |>> > a |>> > > simple DIESEL expression... i.e., namely of the format |>> > $(getvar,<varname>). |>> > > |>> > > -- |>> > > Thanks, |>> > > Martin Schmid, EIT, CCSA, MCDBA, MCSE |>> > > |>> > > |>> > > |>> > > > I was just looking for an RTEXT justification option. |>> > > > They actually had that in an old build!? |>> > > > I can't imagine why they would remove that. |>> > > > Looking foward to seeing a release from you. |>> > > > |>> > > > |>> > > > > We name our layout tabs according to the drawing 'number'.. In |>> > Acad2000 |>> > > > we |>> > > > > used a beta/demo version of RTEXT that allowed justification. The |>> > RTEXT |>> > > > > would be in the sheet title block (xref) to reflect the text in |>the |>> > tab, |>> > > > and |>> > > > > we have a drawing title block i.e., that identifies drawing |>number, |>> > > name, |>> > > > > scale... see attached... in both cases, the E3.2 is RTEXT that |>> > reflects |>> > > > the |>> > > > > name of the 'Layout'. |>> > > > > |>> > > > > Note, however, in ADT2004, that the text is no longer middle |>> > > justified... |>> > > > in |>> > > > > both locations the E3.2 in the drawing is left justified. Since |>the |>> > > RTEXT |>> > > > > is in a block/xref, it can't be manually moved... besides, the |>whole |>> > > > reason |>> > > > > for using RTEXT and blocks, etc., was to reduce the number of |>steps |>> > and |>> > > > > increase standardization/coordination... now the capability |>appears |>> to |>> > > be |>> > > > > lost. |>> > > > > |>> > > > > Is there an alternate solution for ADT2004? I'm looking into |>> ltext... |>> > > but |>> > > > > may opt to create my own. |>> > > > > |>> > > > > |>> > > > > -- |>> > > > > Thanks, |>> > > > > Martin Schmid, EIT, CCSA, MCDBA, MCSE |>> > > > > |>> > > > > |>> > > > |>> > > > |>> > > |>> > > |>> > |>> > |>> |>> |>

 

[Dave Lewis]

yup, its really a loss for all of us customers. I emailed frank a while back but he didn't know where that beta source code was. Do you have any ideas on how we can get ahold of a 2004 beta rtext? Who can we contact?

"Terry W. Dotson"
|>Dave Lewis wrote:
|>
|>> Then he was let go by autodesk.
|>
|>A big mistake in my opinion!
|>
|>Terry

 

[R. Robert Bell]

Give me until Monday... I'll bet I'll have an answer by then.

 

[R. Robert Bell]

AutoCAD 2005 will provide Fields which can be added to any text/attribute object, and basically replaces RText (with a few limitations). There are many neat things that Fields will let you do. See the next issue of AUGIWorld for more details.

 

[Martin Schmid]

Any indication if this will be available as an 'extension'?

 

[Dave Lewis]

thats nice, but what about a solution today. One more reason to stay with 2002 products and not upgrade to 2004. Things like a plot stamp should work.

"R. Robert Bell"
|>AutoCAD 2005 will provide Fields which can be added to any text/attribute |>object, and basically replaces RText (with a few limitations). There are |>many neat things that Fields will let you do. See the next issue of |>AUGIWorld for more details. |> |>-- |>R. Robert Bell, MCSE |>www.AcadX.com |> |> |>|>Give me until Monday... I'll bet I'll have an answer by then.

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[R. Robert Bell]

thats nice, but what about a solution today. One more reason to stay with 2002 products and not upgrade to 2004. Things like a plot stamp should work.

What kind of reasoning is that? Don't upgrade *because* the newest version _will_ do what you want it to do? Or am I mis-reading your post? %^|

 

[Martin Schmid]

I think he is indicating that he is able to use RTEXT as he wants in 2002, but it won't work as he wants in 2004... so why upgrade to a cripled verision if you rely on that feature.

 

[Dave Lewis]

yes. That is one reason for delaying upgrading to 2004. Now that 2005 is almost out we are going to skip 2004 entirely eventhough we bought some seats of it. 2005 is really going to depend on the LDD parts though. At any rate upgrade time does not come till december for my company so I should be rolling out LDD 2005 about a month or two before 2006 arives.

good times!!

"Martin Schmid"
|>I think he is indicating that he is able to use RTEXT as he wants in 2002, |>but it won't work as he wants in 2004... so why upgrade to a cripled |>verision if you rely on that feature.

Dave Lewis
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