Roller Gear Drive

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by lpabloulloa, Aug 7, 2007.

  1. lpabloulloa

    lpabloulloa Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa
     
    lpabloulloa, Aug 7, 2007
    #1
  2. lpabloulloa

    David Janes Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa

    Sweep a cut around the outer edges of the cam at the required angle.
     
    David Janes, Aug 8, 2007
    #2
  3. lpabloulloa

    Prasath Guest

    Prasath, Aug 9, 2007
    #3
  4. lpabloulloa

    David Janes Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa

    Sweep a cut around the outer edges of the cam at the required angle.
    Having looked at the gear, I now see that its a simple worm (though I haven't seen the worm gear it drives). What makes this worm a little special is that it has three leads so that it advances three teeth per revolution, with the force spread over these three teeth. From the picture, there is nothing special about the the teeth, probably a 20 degree pressure angle on the tooth geometry draft, each tooth advancing a third of the way around the gear. The result is that when the worm turns one rev, the worm gear advances three teeth. The teeth may be smaller, but the application of force smoother.
     
    David Janes, Aug 12, 2007
    #4
  5. lpabloulloa

    David Janes Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa

    Sweep a cut around the outer edges of the cam at the required angle.
    Looking at the picture of the gear, I now see that its a simple worm (though I haven't seen the worm gear it drives). What makes this worm a little special is that it has three leads so that it advances three teeth per revolution, with the force spread over these three teeth. From the picture, there is nothing special about the the teeth, probably a 20 degree pressure angle on the tooth geometry draft, each tooth advancing a third of the way around the gear. The result is that when the worm turns one rev, the worm gear advances three teeth. The teeth may be smaller, but the application of force smoother. The pitch is 1/3 of the thickness of the gear blank. Then the tooth is patterned around the axis to obtain the three leads.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Aug 13, 2007
    #5
  6. lpabloulloa

    David Janes Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa

    Sweep a cut around the outer edges of the cam at the required angle.
    Looking at the picture of the gear, I now see that its a simple worm (though I haven't seen the worm gear it drives). What makes this worm a little special is that it has three leads so that it advances three teeth per revolution, with the force spread over these three teeth. From the picture, there is nothing special about the the teeth, probably a 20 degree pressure angle on the tooth geometry draft, each tooth advancing a third of the way around the gear. The result is that when the worm turns one rev, the worm gear advances three teeth. The teeth may be smaller, but the application of force smoother. The pitch is 1/3 of the thickness of the gear blank. Then the tooth is patterned around the axis to obtain the three leads.

    David Janes


    I need to correct one thing I said above: the pitch is actually 3 times the thickness of the blank (not one third) so that it goes around a third of the way from lead in to lead out. If I were doing it on a thread mill, I'd have to figure out the worm lead angle, but, in Pro/e, when creating the helical sweep, you should be able to just set the number 3t (where t is the blank thickness) when it asks for the pitch. Then do an axial pattern of that cut geometry at 120 degrees apart. BTW, when you're first creating your trajectory curve which will just be a straight line on the gear profile parallel to the axis, start and end it off the part.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Aug 14, 2007
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  7. lpabloulloa

    Janes Guest

    Hi Guys,

    I´m trying to design a roller gear drive that is an indexing mechanism
    -in this case a 8 index swatations-, but I do not have clearly how can
    I do it, especially in how to model the complex tapered wedge rib that
    this the core of the index cam, maybe someone of you have much
    experience on this kind of designs than I, if someone don´t know what I
    ´m talking about, I can send the pictures of this mechanism.

    Best regards

    Pablo Ulloa

    Sweep a cut around the outer edges of the cam at the required angle.
    Looking at the picture of the gear, I now see that its a simple worm (though I haven't seen the worm gear it drives). What makes this worm a little special is that it has three leads so that it advances three teeth per revolution, with the force spread over these three teeth. From the picture, there is nothing special about the the teeth, probably a 20 degree pressure angle on the tooth geometry draft, each tooth advancing a third of the way around the gear. The result is that when the worm turns one rev, the worm gear advances three teeth. The teeth may be smaller, but the application of force smoother. The pitch is 1/3 of the thickness of the gear blank. Then the tooth is patterned around the axis to obtain the three leads.

    David Janes


    I need to correct one thing I said above: the pitch is actually 3 times the thickness of the blank (not one third) so that it goes around a third of the way from lead in to lead out. If I were doing it on a thread mill, I'd have to figure out the worm lead angle, but, in Pro/e, when creating the helical sweep, you should be able to just set the number 3t (where t is the blank thickness) when it asks for the pitch. Then do an axial pattern of that cut geometry at 120 degrees apart. BTW, when you're first creating your trajectory curve which will just be a straight line on the gear profile parallel to the axis, start and end it off the part.

    David Janes


    Once again, I correct myself (it's been a learning process, taught by an excellent, very patient teacher in Mr. Pablo Ulloa). My last lesson was an MPEG file that showed the gear in motion. Clarified everything, from the shape of the gear/cam to the trajectory to the type of follower and motion translation (rotational to counter rotational [ at 90 degrees to drive] and intermittent.) I've seen continuous indexing cams in the shape of a simple worm gear, but this indexes one cam follower per one revolution of the cam drive. It's pretty slick, I'd never seen this type of cam before and, even now, could barely desribe its geometry. I can send the MPEG, if anyone wants to take a gander (and take a crack at answering the OP's question).

    David Janes, participant (former Slug, Kibbitzer, Know-it-all, Observer, Lurker), to/for/with my brothers and sisters
     
    Janes, Aug 19, 2007
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