Raised text

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by Peter, Apr 22, 2008.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    I need to add raised text and a raised logo to a surface. The surface
    is not flat, it curves in all directions.
    I created a curve in the shape of the logo (for simplicity, lets say
    that it is a triangle) as a sketched curve on a datum plane in front
    of the surface. then I projected the logo curves onto the surface.
    I tried to "OFFSET" the projected curve, to get the raised thickness.
    It works if set to "along surface", but when set to "normal to the
    surface" (what I want), it only offsets one of the curve lines.
    Because the surface is not planer, I can't use "FILL" to change the
    curve into a surface and then use "THICKNESS".
    It is worse trying to project text because when it asks for the curves
    to project, it only allows one line of a letter at a time (letter "T"
    has 8 lines around) and even so, it says that the ends of the lines
    are not connected so it won't make a surface from the projected
    curves.
    I have also tried STYLE with no better results.
    I have read the rediculous HELP files until my head swims but can't
    find anything of any use.
    Is Proe WF3 capable of doing this?
    Any help is appreciated.
    Peter.
     
    Peter, Apr 22, 2008
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  2. Peter

    Aggrevated Guest

    Wow. This would take all of 10 seconds in SolidWorks.

    Here is what I would do... might not be the best way Offset the
    surface a distance (height of text) Extrude the sketch of the text
    (oulines of letters) then trim with the offset and original surfaces.
     
    Aggrevated, Apr 22, 2008
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  3. Peter

    Peter Guest

    I agree that this is a simple operation in lots of other CAD progs,
    but it is rather difficult for me in Proe.
    I suspect that there is an easy way to do it but I can't find it.
    I was not able to offset the surface (grayed out) but I can thicken it
    to the height of the logo.
    I extruded the logo sketch onto the original surface but I can't trim
    the extrusion (also greyed out).
    Even if it worked, the text should be a different thickness than the
    logo which is on the same surface.
    Also I need to use thicken to make the surface thicker in the other
    direction (a different thickness again).
    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 23, 2008
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  4. First, create a new surface as copy of your part´s adjacent surfaces
    (the ones to carry the logo). Then another using "offset" to this.
    AFAIK ProE does not create offset surfaces from solid surfaces at once.

    A logo solid extruded to the part can be trimmed using offset surfaces,
    as long as the solid is completely inside the surface boundaries.

    Or: extrude the entire logo into a surface (closed loop letters)
    then merge with an offset surface, and "use quilt" to solidify.
    Again, the surface boundaries have to be completely inside the solid.

    Dunno what these steps are called in FiledWire, I´m still on 2001.
    I know ProE since V12 - so I guess there´s not much difference inside.

    Walther
     
    Walther Mathieu, Apr 23, 2008
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  5. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Walther,
    I followed your suggestions but I can't get the solid extrusion to
    trim (greyed out).
    TRIM is only available when a SURFACE is selected, not a SOLID.
    I tried to make the extrusion into a SURFACE but the result isn't what
    I wanted.
    Thanks for your help
    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 24, 2008
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  6. Peter

    John.R.Wade Guest

    Copy the surfaces you want the text on, project the text through these
    new surfaces as a surface trim, and thicken.
     
    John.R.Wade, Apr 24, 2008
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  7. Peter

    Aggrevated Guest


    Don't use trim. Use "thicken" and select the "cut" option.
     
    Aggrevated, Apr 24, 2008
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  8. Don´t mix surfaces and solids in ProE - entirely different approaches.

    Can´t "trim" a solid. As I told you, the name for it may have changed,
    earlier on it was "feature", "create", "cut", "use quilt" for a solid
    to be trimmed using an offset surface or "feature", "create", "solid",
    "use quilt" fore a more sophisticated one (i. e. the complete logo
    made up from an offset surface).

    You will then enjoy to select all tangential edges of each logo letter
    for neutral curves ...
    "feature","create","tweak","draft","neutral curve" back in 2001.

    Sorry if this is not of much help in WF eventually.

    Walther
     
    Walther Mathieu, Apr 25, 2008
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  9. Peter

    Peter Guest



    Something went wrong with the posts and replies and David Janes sent
    an email to offer suggestions. Below is a summary of the emails
    between us.


    Here's how I did what I think you're trying to do.
    * Select the solid surfaces; they'll turn salmon colored
    * Click 'Edit>Offset'
    * Get the Icon for 'Expand', not 'Standard Offset Feature'
    * Set the expand distance
    * Get the Options menu and click the Sketched Region radio button for
    the
    'Expand Area'
    * Define your sketch
    * Make your side surface Normal to Surface (last radio button)

    You don't even need to project the curves onto the surface and you
    should
    get raised text based on your sketch.

    David Janes

    Glad to see you got my solution and that it worked. Well, it's
    interesting that it works for everything BUT text. Maybe it's the kind
    of text you're using. For starters, I'm pretty sure this'll work only
    with vector geometry. Pro/e's fonts qualify, so does True Type and
    PostScript and so does anything in DXF. So, if I create a sketch with
    the Sketch Tool and pick the Text icon, I can make text from any of
    the PS/TT fonts. In the Offset tool, it may be necessary to use this
    sketch to create another where you reference the sketched text with
    Use Edge. So, it may be just a matter of finding a suitable font. But
    it will produce raised text this way.

    David Janes



    Hi David,
    as you said it does create raised text. I was trying to use the text
    directly and this doesn't work.
    I did as you suggested and by using EDGES it works a treat.
    One point of interest is, if the surface uses curves for its shape,
    the raised text may fail if any part of it crosses a curve.

    Thanks again
    Peter


    And thanks to all who replied. Much appreciated.
    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 26, 2008
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