#$%^! - plotter driver scale factors

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by David Hogan, Sep 10, 2003.

  1. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    Hope the header got your attention. Now maybe I can get an answer. Sorry
    about the repost.
    Post 1:
    Want to plot bunch of layouts created for full scale plots on HP5100tn check
    plotter. Selected layouts, made changes to configuration of HP5100 driver
    (scale to fit 11x17, tabloid, landscape), saved to pc3 file, selected that
    pc3 file. Plots on correct paper, landscape, but ignores driver scale
    settings. How do I fix without creating dedicated layouts or plotting each
    layout singly?
    Post 2:
    OK, it appears plotter driver scale factors don't work: you can only scale
    in ACAD, and only if you plot by extents. So how do I save the changes to
    the pc3 file to include those ACAD settings, and not just Windows driver
    settings? And WHY don't HP driver settings work if ACAD is using a system
    printer driver?
    David Hogan, Sep 10, 2003
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  2. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    Ok, I know ACAD is a vector program, but it's rasterizing its data to print
    if it's using a Windows driver, so why CAN'T it utilize driver settings?
    I'm trying to avoid unnecessary layouts and the strain on resources that
    those extra Pspace windows would cause. Unless you're saying you can
    dynamically recall saved layouts without affecting the current layout, or
    having to reset it, or import it. I'll check that out.
    I know, but frankly, I feel ADesk often comes back to that to avoid doing
    the work themselves. I fail to see why, for a program as expensive as ADT, I
    can't simply print all the tabs without creating excess layouts or doing

    As for 2004, we haven't upgraded, because of the perception that it will
    soon be orphaned. We don't have money to throw away right now.
    David Hogan, Sep 10, 2003
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  3. What does 'orphaned' mean?
    Paul Humphrey, Sep 10, 2003
  4. David,

    Page setup names are the answer to plotting the same layout tab to different
    plotters or different sheet sizes.
    Simply set up the plot configuration to suit your sheet size, (full size for
    instance) and then select the add beside the page setup name and name your
    setup. Do you plot. Then when you need to plot at 1\2 size, simply set it up
    again and then add an new page setup name for the 1\2 size plot.

    Now you only need select the page setup name to plot.

    Dave Alexander
    Dave Alexander, Sep 10, 2003
  5. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    I know I can do that for individual layouts, but how do you do it for
    multiple layouts? On my PC at least, that option is grayed out when I select
    multiple layouts.
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  6. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    I said "perception". More specifically, I mentioned ADT. Some time back,
    Adesk itself announced it would eventually orphaned ADT. They may have
    rescinded that remark since, but ADesk's history is littered with good
    products that it abandoned (at great expense to its customers).
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  7. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    All I know is what they tell me. What does all this have to do with being
    able to being able to plot a checkset in ADT3?
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  8. I think Dean is just trying to dispel myths while the subject is at hand.
    And it suggests that 2004 proponents are 'throwing their money away"--but we
    have Publish and a world of other enhancements that 'non-2004' users do not
    have. I dare that you reevaluate who is actually throwing their money away.
    Paul Humphrey, Sep 11, 2003
  9. To apply the same page setup name to multiple layouts, you need to use the
    batch plot or with 2004, you can use publish which is almost the same except
    you have to use it while in AutoCAD but are not limited to the open drawing.
    I don't use multiple layouts in one drawing and have never used page setup
    but it looks like you can use it to set the page setup name to different
    layout tabs from one dialogue box.

    I have used publish and found it easier to use than the batch plot program.

    Dave Alexander
    Dave Alexander, Sep 11, 2003
  10. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    You know, I completely forgot about batch plot. I'll give it a try, although
    I remember it being somewhat cantankerous. Unfortunately 2004 is not even on
    the radar for us. Thanks.
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  11. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    Again, if Adesk says they will eventually (ADT 5 as I recall) get rid of
    ADT, management takes notice. If you look at my post, I put quotes around
    "perception". As for who is throwing money away, just about every second
    release of ACAD or ADT (more frequently with ADT) has not been worth the
    bother of upgrading to, IMHO. Anyway, I was just pointing out that 2004 is
    not an option, and that if Adesk is going to utilize system printer drivers,
    it would be nice if they utilized them fully, or gave an option that allowed
    more flexibility.
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  12. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    Well batch plot is as cantankerous as I remembered. Using plot device and
    settings from successful plot doesn't work-the plots go into the ether,
    never to return. But it looks like its the only way to do it, so I'll
    persist. Any ideas on why this is happening?
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  13. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    We're using ADT-IMHO ADT 3.3 was the first I would choose to upgrade to, but
    we were on subscription at the time. Let it lapse last spring (02) because
    of bugs in previous versions of ADT. Things are now too muddled to make any
    decision until the dust has settled. Either choice would require upgrading
    our PC's-frankly, I'm amazed they even run ADT at all. Unfortunately,
    hardware upgrades only happen in flush years, when it makes tax sense. The
    *other* reason is huge problems we had a couple of years ago with ADT and an
    engineer using ACAD. No version of OE would work, and ADT caused corruption
    that meant even sending as ACAD wouldn't fix. (And we tried EVERYTHING).
    Caused huge headaches and delays. Bosses may not know about CAD, but they
    remember those things.
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
  14. David Hogan

    David Hogan Guest

    Well, for some reason, even though Plot to File is NOT checked or in the
    default setup, using Batch Plot to plot ALL layouts or even selecting all PS
    layouts manually sends those plots to file. I haven't yet checked, but is
    this a known bug?
    David Hogan, Sep 11, 2003
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