Part template / Mate problem SW 2004

Step 1. Starting new part from a template made of one rectangle extruded
with midplane.
Step 2. Select a face, sketch a rectangle, extrude cut halfway through the
solid.
Step 3. CTRL-Q
Next thing that happens is: "Error, could not find face or plane......."
If i make a forced rebuild before step 2, it works as it should with no
errors.
Some assemblys i make with part made from these templates in it suddenly
breaks otherwise
satisfied mates, and it is often mates that are face to face coincident, and
i have
to replace these mates.

(SW2004 SP0 (CD))

Tried on these computers
with same result:

Athlon 1900+
Win 200 pro SP4
1 gig ram
Gloria II

Athlon 2200+
Win 200 pro SP4
1 gig ram
Nvidia Geforce 5200

Also same problem on:

Dell Inspiron 8100
Pentium 1000
384 megs ram
Geforce 2go
XP Pro SP1

Anybody else seen this?

/ Mattias

 

Don't see it here. Are you using the default 2004 part template or one from
an older version?

Dave H

 

Yes, made the part template from scratch (2004).
My VAR can´t reproduce this either, im am going nuts over this....

/Mattias

 

I have been having problems kind of the same. Mates breaking all over the
place. Everything is fine and then I make a simple change to a part and all
the mates related to it break apart.

At first I thought it might be my hot keys I have for mating not being
compatible in 2004, then I thought it might be all the imported parts I was
working with. I ruled them things out. I did just start using a start part
block from a template as you are. I'll try not using that and see what
happens.

I've had about 3 assy's go bad on me. Never seen anything like this before.
The mates are breaking faster than I can fix them.

Jay

 

Yes, you are on the same track as me on this bug, i made macros
instead of using ready-made rectangles and they seem more stable in
the assembly.

/ Mattias

 

Update...., there is now an SPR issued on this problem
because finally our VAR could verify this error.
So, the advice is: Don´t use templates with solids in them (for now), create
the geometry after the template is
inserted.

/ Mattias

 

Good job Mattias and thanks for posting! You saved me much time. I was
thinking it was something I was doing because nobody else seemed to be
having this kind of problem.

Jay

 

Jay,

I have no idea what is happening to you, but would like you to know that I
just finished a 15,000+ part assembly with zero mate problems.

I know that I had a could of mates which would give me problems. They were
items that used point to point mates. When I enlarged the system (design
table change) the points would lose their mates. I added a sketch that to
the part which included a line and before the point to point mate inserted a
line to point coincident. This seemed to allow the points to find each
other.

Other than that all mates remained stable.

Tom

 

Tom,

I have done a number of projects in 2004 with no problems. In the last 6
years of using SW, I've never experienced serious matting issues. This is
most definitely a bug. I do believe it's related to the use of start parts,
which I just started using with 2004 in some new assy's.

I have also seen all the sketch dims go dangling with a simple change to a
parts size. It's like the part doesn't recognize or looses track of it's
surfaces.

Jay