Paper Space vs. Model Space

<<Our system works very well for us. >>

Ahhh, the ever present excuse for continuing to work with old methods. Carry on.

 

Using MAP Queries?

 

Map queries are good. What we used to do if we needed to get something out
quickly and have 2 people working on what was originally 1 file is: The lead
person would open the file, Wblock out the portion of the file the second
person would work on, Save the main file under a second name to be xrefed to
the dwg the 2nd person would work on (pre-Enable with copy), if person 1
made a change person 2 needed to see they would have to coordinate updating
that xref, etc.

This was a clumsy method and only used when we needed to get things out
quickly.

We do occasionally use the Map Query and save back now. But the way our
tasks and drawings are set up now there usually isn't any benefit to it.

Allen

 

The only thing i got to say is Working in model space is great for one thing only and that is the main drawing. Xref in your title block and your background and TEXT in paperspace. Any other way is useless waste of time. I have gone through extensive scenarios inorder to figure out which is more efficient and this is by far hands down the best way.

 

thing only and that is the main drawing. Xref in your title block and your
background and TEXT in paperspace. Any other way is useless waste of time. I
have gone through extensive scenarios inorder to figure out which is more
efficient and this is by far hands down the best way.

I love guys like you that think that their way is the only way...when you
grow up you'll learn that there are many productive ways to accomplish the
same task(s) in AutoCAD...btw, how long have you been using Acad to become
such a "master"?
Dave
DDP

 

To each his own. I prefer model space and insert title blocks with attributes.
For others......well, whatever suits them.

 

Hey buddy, I am the Master . Long enough to know that paper spcace is for text and model is for the other. I mean really, tell me why you think model is better for text, give ma senario and I bet you that i will find many reasons why its not as good as using paperspace. And yes, i agree the same tasks can be accomplished but the absolute mess thats left behind on the drawing is just not cool for the other poor saps that have to try and figure out what the crap you were doing in the drawing. I guess i don't just draw thinking only of myself, I like to try and make it easy for the other guy as well. Honostly why buck the system, other than to feed the old Autocad 10 to 14 way of doing things.

 

for text and model is for the other. I mean really, tell me why you think
model is better for text, give ma senario and I bet you that i will find
many reasons why its not as good as using paperspace. And yes, i agree the
same tasks can be accomplished but the absolute mess thats left behind on
the drawing is just not cool for the other poor saps that have to try and
figure out what the crap you were doing in the drawing. I guess i don't just
draw thinking only of myself, I like to try and make it easy for the other
guy as well. Honostly why buck the system, other than to feed the old
Autocad 10 to 14 way of doing things.

if you really were the "master" you wouldn't be so loud...I hope I never get
one of your drawings so I don't have to be a poor sap trying to figure out
WTF you are doing...

 

I second that. What field are you in Convenant?

 

Alright, first off, using foul abrieviated language is just uncalled for, what r u like 12 years old. Second before giving me your dumb comments why don't you give me senario that shows your way is better. Third of all if you cant do that then SHUT UP. Thanks and have a nice day.

 

I think the point of AutoCAD customization, is that everybody can set their station to work the way that suits them. I think that my way is the best way, but I know that the bloke sitting next to me does it differently. and he thinks his way is the best. As long as the end product is the same what's the difference?

Most companies I have worked for do models/ details in MS and all text etc in PS, Which is my preferred way of doing it. But I've worked in places where everything is done in MS, obviously they didn't use models though.

I know this isn't the answer to PS v MS but as long as everyone works to the same company/contract standard does it matter?

MarkG

 

Also genius, how the crap are you going to deal with 3D models in different views in model space and text them all? I guess paperspace is just there for your entertainment, your right, you are so amazingly right man...How you do that???

 

I said "obviously" because anyone feeling the need to brag that they were "The Master" has delusions about themselves.

 

I agree Mark G, I'm just discussing the topic at hand which is better which is the thread basically according to the original poster. Anyways, I'm not saying that people shouldn't have there own way i know that everyone thinks there way is best. I'm just responding to the thread then to DAVE JONES who is a really cool guy, so cool he knows how to give good examples, hehe. I know not everyone will agree with me but maybe this will spark conversation of examples of senarios instead of stupid comments like Mr. Dave Jones is so good at giving.

 

I wasn't bragging, duh! thats what the wink symbol was for . It was a funny joke, jeeeeez everyone is so sensative and insecure it seems. FYI..

 

which is the thread basically according to the original poster. Anyways, I'm
not saying that people shouldn't have there own way i know that everyone
thinks there way is best. I'm just responding to the thread then to DAVE
JONES who is a really cool guy, so cool he knows how to give good examples,
hehe. I know not everyone will agree with me but maybe this will spark
conversation of examples of senarios instead of stupid comments like Mr.
Dave Jones is so good at giving.

hey thanks! I am a cool guy...I use both methods of annotation as required
by whatever I'm doing or project I'm working on. I have no problem with
either. What I had a problem with is your attitude that annotation in PS is
the ONLY way to do it...not the case, as I think many would agree...
Dave (Mr Cool

 

what r u like 12 years old. <

Who are you talking to?

Matt

 

Matt, he was talking to me for using "WTF" in one of my posts...not much
worse than his use of the word "crap" IMO
Dave

 

That was the foul language?? WTF

The point I was looking to make was that for OUR office, it is more
efficient to note in MS. TB is xreffed in PS, but the "real" information is
in MS. But then, we do MEP, 99.99% 2D with over half the office on LT. I
can see the reasoning when dealing with 3D and if office standards are set
to annote in PS, but I too don't like all encompassing statements.....unless
is true 100% of the time.

Matt

 

yep, that was foul language...I agree about all encompassing statements.
They just bug me because there are so many ways to accomplish the same task
or create the same output in the same amount of time with Acad, that makes
anyone who thinks that their way is the only way a bit short sighted IMO

have a great day, be you a PS or MS annotator
Dave