[OT] getting a MAC OS9 or OSx to talk to a PC win XP

Hi there,

Anyone out there know how I go about networking directly between a MAC and
a PC using ethernet? I know they are talking, but I dont know how to set up
network features so that I can share files etc. In fact, I've yet to be able
to 'ping' the mac's IP - and being a PC monkey I dont know how to do it on
the MAC itself....

Any help much appreciated.

Lee

 

I have various PowerBooks and an NT box and a Win2000 Dell laptop and
I connect them using DAVE from http://www.thursby.com.

To connect just 2 machines, you just take an Ethernet crossover cable
and set up file sharing on both machines and Start DAVE on the
PowerBook and then choose the Dell from the DAVE application, entering
the User Name, Workgroup, & Password.

DAVE's pdf manual goes through lots of detail. Thursby also has a
less expensive version which I have not used. I'm not running OSX
full time yet and haven't bothered to set up DAVE on OSX yet.

http://www.macwindows.com also highlights cross platform issues.
DataViz also makes products to allow seeing media on different
platforms.

It will be relatively easy to get into. Startup is trivial once you
get it set.

Bo

 

Hi Lee,,
It is easy in OSX, but a little trickier in OS9

OSX:
1. make sure your PC has a directory shared....

2. you can "browse" or use the menu "go/connect to server" as the two
methodes. I have better luck with the connect to server technique.

2a. Browse: assuming all is set correctly, you should see your shared PC
when you select the network icon in the desktop browser. If not... try:

2b. Select the "go/concet to server" and enter the path for the computer and
share you want. In my case I just enter "smb://192.168.X.X" or whatever your
PC address is. Then you enter the workgroup, user, and password as normal.
It will show up in the browser window.

If this is not working, you may not have SMB networking turned on. Go to
Applications/Utilities/Directory Access. There you should make sure that
under the services tab you have SMB enabled. Then try again!

BTW, I am assuming that you have the network setting the same for your
machines - you know, DHCP or Ip and subnet mask...


OS9
It has been while since I used OS9, but Bo's suggestion of Thursby's Dave
certainly works.

One correction to Bo's message, you can use a straight OR crossover cable as
all Macs have auto-detecting ethernet ports - it is only PC to PC that it
matters.

Hope that helps! It is not painful as I do it all day every day with my Macs
and PCs - never have a problem (with the Macs... .

Cheers
Dan

 

thanks for your help, I will have ago this evening. Joust one last point, do
I need to enable any special netwoking features on the PC? I have an IP
specified, and will have to enable file and printer sharing if I've not done
so already. But is there anything else?

Thanks again!

Lee

 

Lee Bazalgette wrote on 17.12.2003 13:27 Uhr

Hi lee,

No, there is nothing else you need to do on the PC if the normal network
settings are there. You will also be able to use the network browser on the
PC to connect to the Mac - assuming you enabled SMB on the mac as I said in
the last post.

With OSX you can share printers a and Scanners, but I have not needed to do
that as I have all my printers on my network.

Hope it works, if not, let me know.

Dan

 

HI,

well we had a go, but to no avail so far. The computers are definatley
seeing the fact that they're connected, and I've shared a drive on the XP PC
machine, which enabled the network components. We're having trouble finding
the 'smb' thing on the mac. I've set my PC to obtain IP automatically, and
we've tried setting up the IP addresses manually.

I've tried 'pinging' the Mac from the PC but also with no response.....what
am I missing??? I've done this between two PCs loads of times, and generally
without any problems. Is there a really obvious thing that I need to do,
maybe take the pc over and actually show it the mac to it's face? ;^)

thanks for your help!

Lee

 

Lee, try the tutorials at: http://www.macwindows.com/tutorial.html

Bo

 

Bo Clawson wrote on 19.12.2003 4:23 Uhr


Well, at the moment I am not as confident as I was yesterday.... I am
installing a new Dell with XP-pro and cannot even get it to see and Win2000
machine (I do hate PCs as I have announced on many occasions .

What version of mac OS are you actually using? I am more likely to be able
to tell you what to do on the mac side than the PC side - or so it seems
this minute as I can see my XP box from the w2000 and mac, but just cannot
"connect". And before I install anything on this new machine I want to have
all the basics (network, printing, clean GUI solved first...)

Let me know about the mac, and I try again to help.
Dan

 

Lee Bazalgette wrote on 18.12.2003 13:17 Uhr

Lee, have you:

1. checked the network setting on the mac (control panels or system
preferences/network) to be sure it has a valid IP address and subnet mask?

3. verified that both machines have access on the network by pinging a
server outside (or just checking that they all have access to the web (to be
sure the network cables and cards are fine)

4. if you are using OSX, do check to see that SMB is enabled in the
directory access (in utilities).

5. if using OSX, did you try to connect as I suggested using go/connect to
server? What happened.

Since my last note I got my XP connected to both my other PCs and my Macs...
So I feel a bit better now myself
Dan

 

Lee, I did go ahead and reverify that MacOS9 using DAVE connects
easily to WinXP.

The basics for me in networking ethernet peer to peer has been a
crossover cable for early Macs (which I have) and setting a local area
connection on Win to DNS 192.168.0.1 and my Mac to 192.168.0.2 with
the proper Workgroup name in the System Control Panel and setting up
shared folders.

This general method has also worked between WinNT4 and Win2000, and
OS9 & WinNT4.

Bo