Lost data, saving w/ rollback on, power failure fried data?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by zxys, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Hey you guys. I'm using SW2007sp4

    I was saving my work in a rollback state for well over 4 hours and we
    had a power failure today.

    Now, after rebooting and looking at my data, the local data was about
    3 hours old and the backup data was about 2h40m old, that is, the
    backup is younger than the local data!?!?!

    BTW, I was saving about every 5-10mins and about 5 mins before the
    power failure. So I know I saved but my data was not there?

    So, I lost about 3 hours of work. (I can make up the loss in 2 hrs
    because I remember some of it but that time is gone, damn!)

    Has anyone seen this or have this problem using rollback, but say you
    accidently turned off the pc or rebooted and saw something like the
    above??

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  2. zxys

    TOP Guest

    Paul,

    In Windows Exploder there are options to display different dates. RMB
    on the column titles and go into advanced. You can get creation,
    modify and access dates.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Jul 10, 2007
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  3. zxys

    Bo Guest

    Anyone say APS?

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jul 10, 2007
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  4. zxys

    mbiasotti Guest

    Paul,

    In cases like this, our guys can usually repair the file with minimum
    loss. If you're still hosed, try to get the file to Corporate Tech
    support and they can get it back to you fixed. You should do this
    through your VAR but if you can't, let me know and I'll get it to
    them. I'm currently in CA for the last two weeks, just getting back
    from backpacking trip in Yosemite. I'll be back in the office on
    Thursday.

    Regards

    Mark
     
    mbiasotti, Jul 10, 2007
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  5. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Hey Paul,

    Thanks but, unfortunately the files are history. I deleted them
    because, something went south and I just don't trust them,
    (btw, for those looking, it's "More" and "Date accessed" which
    unfortunately does not give us much info on the history.)

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  6. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Bo,

    My concern here is about saving with rollback on, and whether this is
    known problem?
    Although my case maybe a complete freak of nature, I wrote here to
    share some thing... what happened is/was definitely odd?

    Hmm,... what's a APS? You mean, APC / UPS?

    ... but I'll tell you a story about my past APC's (APC Back-UPS 300 and
    400).... IMHO and experience, neither of them were worth the money I
    spent for them. In testing them, None of them ever were able run as
    long as they said and ALL of them degraded on performance or failed
    within 2 years. (2 year warranties, gotta luv them??)
    Years ago, I was working on a couple of Sun workstations with huge
    APC's ($1K each at the time) under the desk,... guess what, NONE of
    them worked long enough to save safely..

    I save and backup often enough that I'm pretty safe and anyone in this
    business know's stuff happens even when you do every thing to save
    data. (even at 99.9% sh#t happens)

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  7. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Mark,

    Thanks but I just started over and made up the difference.

    I'm jealous, I want to be in the forest hiking!!
    Where did you hike, what trails?

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  8. zxys

    TOP Guest

    Paul,

    I frequently have files that are created after they are modified. If
    you were saving, do you have save set to 2 copies? When SW saves to
    backup it make an identical copy of what you save so if one is messed
    up so is the other. 2 copies is the only way to get past that.

    What SW saves and how with rollback is not known to me.

    I would be curious to know what the created and modified dates and
    time were. Sure you can't find them in the bit bucket?

    TOP

    PS Now we know why SW issued Blackberries. Just can't get away. :)
     
    TOP, Jul 10, 2007
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  9. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Paul,

    I only have it set to "1", having it set to "2" is a good idea.
    Yeah, well, the data is bye-bye, I'd have to try to recover it with a
    recovery program.

    Got his Blackberry and wondering in the forest,..
    hmm, I bet he's got a GPS on it as well... that's cheating, ain't
    it!! ;^)

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  10. You know, I think I have seen the same type of scenario but without the
    rollback parameter. Just the other day, we had a machine crash out, and the
    backup files were more than an hour old in spite of the user having saved
    more often than that. One of those huh?? moments. Same issue maybe?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Jul 10, 2007
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  11. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Wayne,

    It could very well be my own isolate sunspot occurrence but a behavior
    I have seen recently with SW2007 is this,..
    Open up explorer and note the file size....
    Get in a rollback state,...
    Do some changes/additions,...
    Do a save,... note the file size,....
    Now,.. sometimes the file size does not change!? (yes, even after a
    F5)?

    Sure,... I'm smok'n sumth'n, right!?!?

    I've seen it! (hmm,... maybe I've encountered the first cyber UFO
    siting)?

    (Mark, are there any Sasquatch's up there?) 8^)

    ...
     
    zxys, Jul 10, 2007
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  12. zxys

    TOP Guest

    My kid just told me he saw a UFO. Right over the glide path for the
    local airport too.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Jul 11, 2007
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  13. zxys

    mbiasotti Guest

    Myself and some other dad's from my former Church in CA do a father/
    daughter (mine is 17 now) to the top of Half-Dome every year; this is
    our fourth year. This year we included sons also so we had a group of
    about 14 total. We start from Tenaya Lake (park cars in valley and
    take tram) and hike to Sunrise hi-sierra camp for 1st nite, then 2nd
    nite at little yosemite valley camp (on back side of half-dome) then
    up to half-dome and back down to the valley via the Nevada/Vernal
    falls trail. Yosemite is one of the things I missed most about CA.

    Regards

    Mark
     
    mbiasotti, Jul 11, 2007
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  14. zxys

    zxys Guest

    He's truly fortunate.
    I was 5 yrs old when I saw my first,... well, it was green/blue/yellow
    and zoomed across the sky really fast... WOW!
    Later, when I was 45 yrs,I was told the truth (messed my mind up, all
    those dreams...) , it was a stray missile which was aborted
    (detonated) and the scraps (probably with fuel on them) as they
    entered the lower altituded glowed grn/blu/ylw.

    ... ;^)
     
    zxys, Jul 12, 2007
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  15. zxys

    zxys Guest

    Mark,

    Half Dome is one of the great ones!
    Very kewl hike! I've never been that route but it sounds great!

    I wanna go!!!

    ,,
     
    zxys, Jul 12, 2007
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