KIP 6000

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Aaron Lance, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. Aaron Lance

    Aaron Lance Guest

    My office has been pretty happy with our HP 1055 CM, but it's just not fast
    enough to cope with our growing office.

    We're considering purchasing a KIP 6000 LED printer and KIP 2000 Scanner.
    We plan to keep the 1055 for color prints, but use the LED printer for our
    high-volume jobs.

    We could get a second HP 1055... I've heard that a new one is coming out in
    a few months that will be at least twice as fast (supposedly 2 D-size prints
    per minute)... but I'm looking for something more. This particular LED
    printer is supposed to print 8 D-size sheets per minute.

    Has anyone here had recent experience with large-format LED printers, and if
    so, is there anything I should know before I recommend one to the boss?

    - Aaron Lance
     
    Aaron Lance, Aug 16, 2004
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    Jason Hickey Guest

    Aaron Lance thought for a minute, then typed the following:
    We had a very similar setup, only we were running a HP 1050C (the
    non-Postscript version of the 1055CM) and a KIP 2000. Our KIP was way
    undermatched for the volume that we were putting through it, and the
    resulting service calls and problems left a sour taste in our corporate
    mouth. Software problems (controlling the machine)were the norm, not the
    exception. Not to mention, the print quality left a lot to be desired,
    especially when printing greyscale solids. I could tell you horror stories
    about changing the toner, but thankfully, I got those pants cleaned ;)

    With all that being said, I can't reccommend the KIP line of machines. We
    made a serious upgrade to an OCE TDS600 series plotter and scanner alongside
    a HP 1055CM plotter for our color work. I can't talk good enough about the
    OCE line. Since the plotters/scanners/controllers are located in my room,
    I noticed an immediate reduction in both ambient noise level and room
    temperature (I've got an air conditioner in here that works?!?). The OCE
    machine is just <built> better - more sound construction, if you will. The
    software is much more integrated, and rarely crashes (I've had to reboot the
    system maybe 5 times in as many months. With the KIP, we were rebooting
    the system at least once, sometimes as much as 3-4 times a DAY). The
    software looks like it was built WITH the OCE, not as an afterthought (like
    it seemed with the KIP system). The scan quality is not only better, but
    faster, and print quality is impeccable. Both paper and toner are a breeze
    to load, with no waste or mess loading the toner (I no longer have to have a
    dry-cleaner on retainer).

    Anything else you need, feel free to let me know. I don't work for OCE, and
    I'm not really a KIP hater (hey, they're better than Xerox!) I'm speaking
    from experience here, in a real world setting.
     
    Jason Hickey, Aug 17, 2004
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    Rob Guest

    Change your proposed setup to a hp750c, and it would be identical to ours.
    We have about 20 plotting to the KIP 6000 and about 6 to the 750.
    Our setup is Kip 6000 with the scanner and an outfeed table, a little
    trouble setting up, but not to bad. Changing the toner has not been a
    problem on the 6000, or the KIP 2000 in the north office. Printing speed is
    fast (hit print, walk to the printer, pick up print), quality is also good
    but you will have to tweek your ctb/stb tables to match between printers.
    Service has been here several times in the 6+ months we had it, nothing
    major except for a fan bearing that went out.
    The Printrequester software is useable from your desktop if you plot to a
    file, it can also convert .plt's to some other formats. I wish there was
    the option of seeing a preview of .plt files.
    Have been on some big OCE's and Xerox's which were faster and had other
    special features, but also came with a big dollar sign. They were vary nice
    machines.
     
    Rob, Aug 17, 2004
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    ecable Guest

    We have a KIP 8000 and it is very fast and reliable.
    I don't know what your needs are but you will find the KIP to be a good machine. The PowerPrint software is very easy to use and if you plot to file in your job pack any body in the office can run their own prints on the KIP. There is a feature in the PowerPrint software to view the plot files. If you do not have this capability call you representative and have them install it (it's part of the package).
     
    ecable, Aug 18, 2004
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    Rob Guest

    Thanks, found the viewer.

    A note about our KIP 6000,
    -- when plotting a plt file with images, the images are fuzzy,
    but not when plotted straight from acad.
    Just ran into this on today, havent figured out why yet.

    Rob


    machine. The PowerPrint software is very easy to use and if you plot to file
    in your job pack any body in the office can run their own prints on the KIP.
    There is a feature in the PowerPrint software to view the plot files. If you
    do not have this capability call you representative and have them install it
    (it's part of the package).
     
    Rob, Aug 23, 2004
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    ecable Guest

    In PowerPrint Request go to modify pens, then advanced options and tweek the settings. I have one pen settings for normal and one for printing raster that I want to be light (background). If you are having trouble call KIP America and ask for software support (800-252-6793). They will be glad to help you.
    Hope that helps.
     
    ecable, Aug 27, 2004
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