Anyone ever use Norton Editor in the early 90's to program?
Not for programming per se, though I used it's hex view to hack; sometimes push values in binary source. What's the real question? Anyone ever use edlin to program? Seems like a weird question. Yes, but matters how?
Just conversing.... It's a far cry from what we now use, considering all the benefits that come with all the features, like symbol recog. and color... Let's see you have Textpad right? How does it benefit anyone to program with it? I'm not making a joke here, it's just that I downloaded it and tried it a little but haven't a clue how to use it. Perhaps I should take a week and read the docs. Does it compile? Perhaps your thoughts, on how you use it.....once again what do you use, no joke....nor poking fun...
Textpad is a capable and extensible text editor, nothing more; nothing less. You can instruct it to call a compiler, on-line help, dos commands etc., but is not a compiler, help engine or dos engine. Just like edlin was not a batch interpretter even though you may have used it to make batch files. I'd start with the help. After that you can visit Textad's discussion group forum for peer support. What are my thoughts? It's hardly a secret: I like it and don't use the vlide at all (never have / did - even when it was BASIS' baby). I can program faster because it's a fast editor, I've hooked my various tools to it and otherwise configured it "my way". I've tried scores of others but Textpad always reals me back in. Fits like a great pair of boots - I feel sure footed and can wade through the muck and mire with no fear. Not affiliated, though long time user, sometimes beta tester and idea wiener.
Yeah! I remember using Edlin "in the old days" when we had the 640k limit on ram with DOS machines. If you wanted to use a programmer's editor, you would have to exit AutoCAD, edit your text file, exit the editor, start AutoCAD (which might take a few minutes), load your text file, and test it. If there was a glitch you would have to start the process all over. Edlin on the other hand, used very little ram. Don't recall how much ram, but I think it just loaded the actual line you were editing - not the whole file. Rather cryptic editor, but you could shell out of AutoCAD and just have enough ram to edit a menu or pgp file or whatever. Exit edlin and you would be back in AutoCAD. That was multitasking then. Regards, Steve Doman <clip>
I used to write code using a little acsii basher called pc-write that was a shareware word processor ($33) that could stream pure ascii. I remember cracking its help format and typing the entire lisp manual into an indexed file so I would have on-line help; what a gas. Then a source code file breeched it's 384K max and poof, I had to find a new editor. I went thru pedit, qedit, multiedit, megaedit, editpad, pfe32, ultraedit, boxer, a glut of other no starts and then ... textpad, finally a freakin' happy marriage
I favored Boxer (dos version) for a long time because of its speed and attitude. It's amazing how much a programmer's personality shines to the finished product. I'm leaning towards TextPad now a days. But mostly use Vlide since I'm addicted to it's debugging abilities. Got to go now. Steve
Edlin, Thought that was dead. 1 liner, hex codes...bahh. Spit. The old word-star (circa 1986) was the only thing out there that could edit files > 64k with success. With Edlin, I hacked the DOS batch processor, made it not accept 'Y' for 'continue Yes/No' for autoexec.bat or such. Not somewhere I want to revisit.. Bob
Good god - I haven't thought about edlin in years. Just saw your comment and remembered what I went through with edlin. ugh
"... 1 liner, hex codes...bahh ..." I think you are thinking of the debug.exe application, not edlin.
What about the freeware VLISP editor, I created several hundred programs with it before 2000 and VLIDE came to town. Rodney
You mean someone else used this program! I still prefer pc-write to do my editing as it has some word processing capabilities and straight ascii files. I learned edlin (gag) as it was on everyone's machine. Not a great or friendly environment thought. I still use a dos based file manager for some functions though it won't handle long filenames but will allow multiple operations such as renaming.
OMG, I can't believe someone else knew what I was talking about. I vaguely recall the last version I used as 3.3, I think this was around 1990. I had always assumed it just died when Windows came around a couple years later. I did a quick search and found references to ver 4.15 but no homepage. What version do you use? This is just too weird. <snippage>
He's talking about the first VisualLISP editor that Autodesk sold for $100.00 for Autocad R14. I purchased and did the same, wrote and wrote thousands of lines of code. Or perhaps he's talking about Vitalisp
v3.03 I looked at the later version but did not like the looks. This is still a good editor with easy multiple copies, etc. Quite easy to quickly define a macro key.
