Item Balloon for Loctite

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by cadman_357, Jul 14, 2004.

  1. cadman_357

    cadman_357 Guest

    We use a dummy (blank) part file for loctite, and other adhesives, in
    order for these items to show up in our boms.

    The part files have no geometry, just an item description, vendor part
    number, etc. When creating an assembly model, we insert this file for
    the adhesive into the assembly model, fix it in place, and then it
    shows up in the bill of materials.

    When creating the assembly drawing, I need to shown which fasteners
    need loctite. I'd like to use an item balloon for this, but how do I
    attach the balloon if there is no visible part to select. I could
    pick the fastener, then use custom item balloon text; but if the bom
    order is changed, this balloon nubmer will not change accordingly. Is
    there a way I can link the loctite balloon item number to the bom item
    number?

    Rob
     
    cadman_357, Jul 14, 2004
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  2. If there's only one Loctite used in the assy, you could make your balloon
    text call out "Loctite", rather than "Item 10".

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Jul 14, 2004
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  3. Could you make the loctite a sleve surface and mate it to the bolts. You
    could insert the bolts as a sub assy with one config with the loctite and
    one without.
     
    Corey Scheich, Jul 14, 2004
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  4. cadman_357

    Sporkman Guest


    Very simply use a note annotation. After inserting your item number,
    select the annotation and in the Property frame on the left select
    "Circular" for BORDER, and specify whether you want "Tight Fit" or "One
    character" or "Two characters", etc., to jibe with the way you do item
    balloons there at your company.

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Jul 15, 2004
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  5. I don't think it will update with BOM changes, will it?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Jul 15, 2004
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  6. cadman_357

    Sporkman Guest

    That's correct, Wayne -- it's just a note annotation. It's the simple
    solution, but may not be the best solution, especially if changes may be
    implemented by someone besides the original designer down the line.

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Jul 15, 2004
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  7. cadman_357

    Pmwh Guest

    I thought you could select components from the feature manager, but I
    just tried in 2003 and it did not work. You should be able to use the
    feature manage IMHO. Sounds like you should submit a request to your
    VAR for SWX to add this function.

    Personally, I don't understand how you can use the default item
    number, considering it could change. I guess if your users are
    properly trained and understand the software, but still is one more
    thing to keep up with. I create a custom field for each part, but I
    have the confidence it will not be reordered because I am woring in my
    assembly. Still wouldn't help with blank components.
     
    Pmwh, Jul 15, 2004
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  8. cadman_357

    cadman_357 Guest

    Never thought of this approach.

    I remember Mechanical Desktop (it makes me shutter just typing those
    words) had a part reference that you could added to the drawing. You
    placed an * on the drawing sheet and linked it to a part number. Then
    when you wanted a ballon to reference your loctite number, you clicked
    on the *. When you we're done with your balloons, you toogled the *'s
    visiblity Off. I was wondering if SW had something like this.

    Thanks for your help.

    Rob
     
    cadman_357, Jul 15, 2004
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    Rob,
    You can attach a balloon to any "phantom" part by selecting the origin of
    the part. We have been using this technique for many revisions for our
    hydraulic fluids.
    The only draw back is the single attach point. In the case of our fluids,
    we do a mate offset so that the fluids origin is somewhere in the middle of
    our cylinders. A little extra work but it does the job.
    An additional suggestion would be to show the origin for the loctite, then
    add a "stacked balloon" to the fastener set and end with selection of the
    loctite, as the fastener is the item that requires the bulk item.
    Give it a try,
    Eddie
     
    Eddie Cyganik, Jul 15, 2004
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