Is Pentium M a better CAD chip than P4 and Athlon even?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by me, Jul 26, 2005.

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    me Guest

    see link

    http://tinyurl.com/ey4c3

    Could it be after reading this that I should look into
    a Pentium M chip over the Athlon and P4? Maybe even
    the dual core chips?

    I'm confused

    Advice?
     
    me, Jul 26, 2005
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  2. me

    me Guest

    While it is certainly true that the PM is clock-for-clock a bit faster than
    Thanks Dale

    I'm looking for a PC that uses as little power as
    possible. Can be left on all day.

    But it must be able to do some heavy duty thing such as
    CAD work

    Any advice on what CPU to go for?

    Should I go dual core athlon? Is it pretty power
    thrifty?

    Or maybe buy a laptop with a Pentium M chip in it?
    Can leave that on all day long without much heat
    buildup or power use?

    Again the goal is to leave the PC on for days at a
    time. Maybe weeks at a time. And not affect my
    electric bill much or create a lot of ambient heat in
    the room.
     
    me, Jul 26, 2005
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  3. If you're leaving your computer on for weeks at a time it's going to
    affect your electic bill whether it's a P4 or an M.

    I have a P4, it generates a lot of heat but only when it's crunching.
    If your computer is static most of the time I would think you won't
    find the heat a problem. I doubt you could leave it on persistently
    without showing up on your bill though.
     
    rockstarwallyMYAPPENDIX, Jul 26, 2005
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    TOP Guest

    I leave my AMD64 FX53 on 24/7 as I do will many of my systems. Aside
    from the electric bill this doesn't seem to affect much and if anything
    makes them more reliable.

    While Tom's has benchmarked a lot of things they didn't try their SW
    benchmark in this particular test. I would be interested in those
    results.
     
    TOP, Jul 26, 2005
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  5. me

    me Guest

    If you're leaving your computer on for weeks at a time it's going to
    True

    But want to minimize the affect as much as possible
     
    me, Jul 26, 2005
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    me Guest

    How much power do you need to save? If you spend an extra $1-1.5k on a
    yes it is hard to quantify

    Cause like you said the premium you might pay for Pent
    M may not be recovered in lower elect costs

    Still..... I'm looking at it from an environmental view

    Call me crazy. But I like the idea of being frugal with
    the earths resources

    Hence the idea of using a Pent M chip for cad work

    And actually.... this PC will be used for mundane
    computer things more than CAD work. I just need the
    ability to do some CAD at home when needed. Such as
    testing new software, trying new methods, etc

    But it wont be a full on CAD production machine
     
    me, Jul 26, 2005
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    me Guest

    Anyhow, it sounds like fairly casual CAD usage, so ultimate CPU grunt power
    yeah.....

    Laptop would probably do me OK

    I've just never owned one before and not sure if Id
    like one or not

    Especially since most of the time it will be used as a
    "desktop".... i.e hardly moved

    If you were gonna get a laptop yourself....what size
    screen would you for? Let me rephrase that.... what
    would be the SMALLEST screen you'd live with in a
    laptop?

    And what resolution?
     
    me, Jul 26, 2005
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    Bonobo Guest

    I use the Dell M60 with 1920 pixels and I find it to be emminently
    usable, and less "jaggy" than many larger screens with larger pixels.
    I work only on laptops now, though indeed, I work primarily on small
    plastic products, and their molds. My current mold assembly and parts
    open in about 8 key files are over 100 megs, and work well and crisply
    on the M60.

    I think it depends on ones comfort with the screen and software.

    When I first started with 2D CAD, I had up to 3 screens. I do not see
    the need to do that now for my CAD work, as the windowing is much
    better, and 3D assemblies solve so much of the questions which multiple
    screens used to address.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Jul 27, 2005
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    Deri Jones Guest

    I've got a Dell Latitude C840 (the non quadro version of the M50) with a
    15" 1600x1200 screen - it's fine for working on non intensively (just
    spent 3 days on a course working on it). The fans will work a lot if
    you're doing a lot of processing on it (I got the shop to cut a slab of
    6mm aluminium that lives under mine to take some of the heat away when
    it's on the desk).
    If you do get a Dell laptop and are planning on using for proper design
    work - make sure you get one of the "M" range ones with the FX graphics
    cards, rather than the Geforce cards - Solidworks doesn't like the
    Geforce ones and Dell don't like you using softquadro to mod them - I
    never managed to get it to work and don't think others did on Dell's.
    Without the Quadro/FX additions, Solidworks goes real slow after opening
    a certain number of windows, so you have to save, close and re open a
    lot, which gets kind of boring with a 300 part assembly.
    For full on work though, you can't beat a decent 20" LCD - you can stare
    at that all day without too many problems. Go for one of the single core
    AMD chips unless you do rendering or analysis work - they storm....
    saying that I'm trying to come up with a logical reason to buy a dual
    processor, dual core opteron for doing rendering work on after spending
    the last 20 hours watching my dual opteron at 100% processor and 1.6Gb
    RAM doing a Maya render.....it's a bit warm in here now.....
    On the environment front - work from home via the internet and don't
    commute as much - I've cut my commuting mileage by some 8000 miles a
    year doing this and get waaay more work done! With fuel in the UK at
    getting on for 7$/ gallon, it's also a stack of cash.
    Cheers
     
    Deri Jones, Jul 27, 2005
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