How to get datum evaluate into note? /2001

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by kenny, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. kenny

    kenny Guest

    Hi,

    I have an assembly with a series of levers which are controlled by a
    single angle and I need to see the result clearly.
    Insert/Datum/Evaluate
    feature name: plunger
    enter measurement name: travel
    and pick two surfaces to measure distance apart.
    To get to this info I look into info/feature.

    How to I get this 'parameter' into a 3D note to see the result
    immediately after changing the driving angle?

    Thanks
     
    kenny, Sep 29, 2004
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  2. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    Insert/Datum/Evaluate
    Reference the measurment as:
    travel:fid_plunger

    (Not sure if you can do this directly in the note or if you need to create
    a parameter that reads the value.... etc.)
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 29, 2004
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  3. kenny

    kenny Guest

    this does not appear to be a parameter otherwise it would appear in a
    note by referencing it as &travel:fid_plunger
    not sure about this, I cannot create a real number feature parameter as
    this format will not be accepted as a value
     
    kenny, Sep 29, 2004
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  4. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    not sure about this, I cannot create a real number feature parameter as
    Not sure I'm getting it, but .....

    Create a relation such as; distance = travel:fid_plunger
    (automatically creates the parameter "distance")
    Create a note that says "offset = &distance" and place it.
    The note should show: offset = 7.500 (or whatever the value is).
    (Just tried this in WF, so I've learned something <g>)
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 29, 2004
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  5. kenny

    Stu Guest


    create the evaluate as described, then enter a relation
    such as measurement= travel:fid_plunger
    then make your note read &measurement.
    I've just tried it and it works, although in WF2 the note doesnt
    update on a regen. You have to re-define it and voila! it changes.....
     
    Stu, Sep 29, 2004
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  6. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    .....
    Ok, just noticed the same thing (WF2, also) and you're seeing it indicates
    a bug, I think. Don't redefine it, just RMB on the part and Regenerate
    again. You get the note that nothing's changed and the note still reads
    old value. Repaint the screen (I just bump the spaceball) and the note
    updates.

    (I tried it with a part level note and a feature level note associated with
    the datum evaluate, which is the last feature in the part I was testing
    with.)
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 29, 2004
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  7. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    You get the note that nothing's changed ...

    In the message window, that is.
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 29, 2004
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  8. kenny

    kenny Guest

    And it also works in a note in the drawing.
     
    kenny, Sep 29, 2004
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  9. kenny

    kenny Guest

    There is always something in proe that will irritate, I've found that
    suppress and resume the eval feature is the quickest way to refresh the
    note, but this bug does spoil the action.
     
    kenny, Sep 29, 2004
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  10. kenny

    David Janes Guest

    : Hi,
    :
    : I have an assembly with a series of levers which are controlled by a
    : single angle and I need to see the result clearly.
    : Insert/Datum/Evaluate
    : feature name: plunger
    : enter measurement name: travel
    : and pick two surfaces to measure distance apart.
    : To get to this info I look into info/feature.
    :
    : How to I get this 'parameter' into a 3D note to see the result
    : immediately after changing the driving angle?
    :
    Kenny, you were right to put 'parameter' in quotes. Those methods can pick up
    values when they are created but you discovered their limitation: they don't
    update well.

    You were close though! Instead of the evaluate function, do 'Insert>Model
    Datum>Analysis'. It, too, offers the Measure function to get the refverences that
    you are using for distance. But then, its decided advantage is that, in the
    process, it has you create a parameter, a real one, to hold and represent that
    measured value. It also sets its own update condition which makes it possble to
    make the parameter value ever current and the parameter which it lets you create
    can be used quite simply in a note with the usual ampersand sign. When your model
    updates, the parameter updates and the note updates with it.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Sep 30, 2004
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  11. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    ..... do 'Insert>Model > Datum>Analysis'. It, too,
    Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 30, 2004
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  12. kenny

    David Janes Guest

    :> ..... do 'Insert>Model > Datum>Analysis'. It, too,
    : > offers the Measure function to get the .....
    :
    : Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
    :
    Maybe, good question, can't keep those little bundles straight, but this generally
    applies to Evaluate stuff too, doesn't it? If you have Evaluate, shouldn't you
    have Analysis?

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Sep 30, 2004
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  13. kenny

    Jeff Howard Guest

    : Behavioral Modeling eXtension required?
    Dunno for sure, but with WF and WF2 I've been able to use Evaluate
    features, but Analysis features give me the "try before you buy" message.
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 30, 2004
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