Help with joining

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I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong. I have a design that has two different line drawings. I have given the two separate drawings the SAME endpoint. When I go to join them they just won't. I have spent the last 6 hours trying to GET this. What am I doing wrong? I did it once yesterday with something else that I was working on. I at first couldn't yesterday either and then something I did clicked and it worked.

I am new to this program and am so disgusted with the support. The manual I have printed but I find NO TELEPHONE support unless I want to fork out another $149.00 for it. I HAVE to use this program for a computerized system. I have no choice. PLEASE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WITH ANSWERS. I noticed the last post to this forum was in February. Are there any help books available for Autosketch?????
 
Patience, patience, patience.....!!!!

Assuming you wish move entities within the same drawing.....select the
entities you wish to move/join.

Edit>Transform>Translate (ensure the copy/move check box on the Edit bar is
unchecked). The Status Bar will ask you to "enter from point" > select a
suitable snap point.

Then you will see on the Status Bar, "enter to point" > select another snap
point.

VOILA.....all done....!!!

Ric Norris.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings



lalawson said:
I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong. I have a design that has two
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different line drawings. I have given the two separate drawings the SAME
endpoint. When I go to join them they just won't. I have spent the last 6
hours trying to GET this. What am I doing wrong? I did it once yesterday
with something else that I was working on. I at first couldn't yesterday
either and then something I did clicked and it worked.
I am new to this program and am so disgusted with the support. The manual
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I have printed but I find NO TELEPHONE support unless I want to fork out
another $149.00 for it. I HAVE to use this program for a computerized
system. I have no choice. PLEASE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WITH ANSWERS. I
noticed the last post to this forum was in February. Are there any help
books available for Autosketch?????
 
I have re-read your post.

You need to investigate "Merge"....basically the same principle as per my
previous response. The "Help" should put you on track.

There must be something wrong with your "news reader".....the last post to
this forum was made on 13 April.

Ric Norris.
http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings


lalawson said:
I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong. I have a design that has two
Click to expand...
different line drawings. I have given the two separate drawings the SAME
endpoint. When I go to join them they just won't. I have spent the last 6
hours trying to GET this. What am I doing wrong? I did it once yesterday
with something else that I was working on. I at first couldn't yesterday
either and then something I did clicked and it worked.
I am new to this program and am so disgusted with the support. The manual
Click to expand...
I have printed but I find NO TELEPHONE support unless I want to fork out
another $149.00 for it. I HAVE to use this program for a computerized
system. I have no choice. PLEASE IS ANYONE OUT THERE WITH ANSWERS. I
noticed the last post to this forum was in February. Are there any help
books available for Autosketch?????
 
Thank you Rick. I do have to apologize for my first post. After sitting here trying to do this one simple thing for hours upon hours it reflected in my post that I was some what frustrated LOL!!! It's morning now and I am so please to see someone has responded. Hopefully, I won't let this get the best of me.

Now, I am trying to follow your instructions but when I go to the Edit menu I do not see the "translate" and the boxes you are referring to. I'll go now and look in the manual for merge but I was just wondering why I'm not seeing these boxes.

I am new to CAD programs but I have to figure this out to run a computerized longarm quilting machine. The designs I'm trying to do are for this.

Thanks again for your time in answering my question. I'll let you know my progress.
 
Okay, here is a little more detail of my problem.

I drew out a design using the freehand polyline. I copied, flipped and rotated the copy. I now have them placed where I want them. I have taken and given them the same endpoint so they "share endpoint" like the manual says. When I go to join them, I can click on the first entity but then I get that little ping sound when I go to click on the second. I have tried holding down the ctrl key also without any success.

Now just for the fun of it I tried to see if I drew out just individual short polylines and tried joining these. I can get these to join up to the designs when I go through some sequences. I cannot get them to work with just clicking on one and then the other. It seems like I have to click the first one, then the second and then back to the first, or some crazy sequence to get this to work. Okay, I thought now that I know the sequence I'll go back and try and do the same thing with my designs. Again, it's not working.

I did look at the merge instructions but I really don't think that relates to what I'm doing. I found the "translate" you were referring to and tried that also. Still never saw any boxes however.

Looks like I'm back to where I started from.....no I don't think I ever left. :(



Now just to sample this. I
 
You have tried a few simple lines and the Trim-Join command works.
Click first line then second line and they are joined.

Are both of the entities that you are joining still lines or polylines?
If you have made a symbol out of the pieces, they will not join.

Another thought - if the entity is a free hand polyline, you need to
click on the very end segments to join it to something else.
 
Well after 9 hours of trying to figure this out I finally have figured it out I think. I went back and enlarged my design by 1200%. I made sure the intersection snap was on. I went and took all the lines that were laying on top of one another and clicked their points to intersect them. This was what was causing the problems. I have to have lines laying over one another for this continuous line. I realized that maybe this was causing the problems and I was right.

Why oh, why can't this be easier???? I am using this program for a specialized application that maybe only 1% of the users will use AutoSketch for so my questions are probably not the norm.

Thank you for all that responded but I do wish there were more training manuals out there for this. In the 9 hours I spent trying to figure this problem out I will admit I got to know the program VERY well !!!!
 
Well I spoke to fast. Just when I really thought I was getting somewhere, I come to a complete hault again. Grrrrrr!!! I thought I had found the problem to the original issue of not being able to join polylines unless they were snapped at the intersections where they overlayed. I designed two elements and joined them together this way without incidence. By doing this, half my design was complete. I then go and copy the first joined lines, rotate them 90 degrees and try to join them to the first element and I'm back to square one with my problem.

This is so frustrating I can hardly stand it. I have worked all day on a design that should be taking me less than an hour. Something has to give here. Why is this causing me sooooo much trouble. I realize I'm doing something specialized by joining elements should NOT be this difficult.
 
Mr. Lawson

Your problem is I didn't see this post until just now, so here's the answer. At
least I think so.

(Now of course you have an Intellimouse or similar. If not, then get one and you
don't have to worry about percent enlargements, it's all intuitive.)

Make sure that you have the Edit Bar choice selected. You *must* have that showing
to do this properly. Right-click on an empty area somewhere in the menu and tick
it off in the dialog screen.

What you have to do now is Explode each polyline. Do that by Selecting each of the
designs and clicking on the Firecracker in that Edit bar.

Place the cursor in the area you want to join the segments and depress the wheel
of the mouse repeatedly until that area is quite large. Click on one segment, type
"E" (for end point) and extend the line until it meets the end of the other design.

Click again and they should be connected together with no space. You have to do
that for any open segment areas so that the polyline appears continuous on the
screen.

You have to Join all the segments of each side of the design so the program knows
you want that design to be one single entity instead of a bunch of small ones.
That's important. Reread it.

Choose the TrimJoin tool. That's the one that looks like a saucepan. (It's the
last one in the fly-out menu under the TrimCorner tool) A small circle will
appear. Place that circle toward the end of one of the segments you connected (or
anywhere on the polyline for that matter), *hold down the Ctrl key* and click.

The drawing will appear to vibrate and shake around as it starts joining all those
segments together. Depending on how many segments you created will determine how
long it will take. Could take a minute. Be patient.

Next?

And please, you guys, it just isn't necessary to munge your address in this
newsgroup. You don't get spam here.
 
Well, I printed out your instructions and did exactly like you said. I had trouble understanding the "tick" the edit. What I did was right click when I was on an empty space and unchecked the edit box. Nothing happened however and then I proceeded with your instructions.

It sounds like you're saying there is a "special" sequence to all of this. I'm not sure if I got it all right but this is crazy to have to have this magical formula to do such a simple task.

Thanks for taking the time to help me but looks like I'll have to go back to simple coloring book designs for anything to work in this program.
 
So did you get your drawing completed in AutoSketch or is it still not
doing what you need it to?
 
I have given up Len. After spending 2 full days on this without any workable answers I realize this program will not do what I need it to do. I may go in and redraw the original design and leave some spacing between the center pedals. It will not look like I wanted it to but that's all I can think to do at this point. I have many more designs that I was hoping to accomplish through this AutoSketch program that will now all have to be altered to a more simplified look.

I really thought since this program was version 8 that all the bugs would have been worked out and problems like these would have been corrected. Looks like they need to come up with Version 9 already.
 
What I meant was to tick the Edit selection such that it shows a check mark. This
ensures that it will appear at the top of your screen each time you select a tool
or an entity, usually at the bottom of the various menus.

There's no special "sequence" to this, more that it's a natural way to clean up a
drawing. I guess I wasn't clear in my description.

What I think you need is a straightforward explanation of what cad programs like
this do. Send me your email addy and I'll forward you a little word doc about
AutoSketch, done up many years ago when V7 came out, but I think the basics should
still apply. You can play with it if you're not too frustrated by now with the
program. (I would have done that already if your email was shown in your posts)

It's too bad you've taken all this time so far, I understand it can be a real
turnoff. Be a bit more patient and maybe we can make it all clear to you. There
are some really slick users here that make this program jump through hoops.

I'm not certain if Paul Jackson is still selling his book, Hands On A House, it's
extremely useful and most users here have it. I think Len gave his addy somewhere
in this thread.

H
Well, I printed out your instructions and did exactly like you said. I had
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trouble understanding the "tick" the edit. What I did was right click when I was
on an empty space and unchecked the edit box. Nothing happened however and then I
proceeded with your instructions.
It sounds like you're saying there is a "special" sequence to all of this. I'm
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not sure if I got it all right but this is crazy to have to have this magical
formula to do such a simple task.
Thanks for taking the time to help me but looks like I'll have to go back to
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simple coloring book designs for anything to work in this program.
 
Thanks Harvey, I'd appreciate that document. The link to the book that someone posted or e-mailed said they are out of business.

my e-mail is [email protected]

Thanks,
Linda
 
Paul - say it ain't so.

Paul has said his business is currently defunct but he's working on resuming at
some time in the future under different circumstances.

His email is still active however, but I don't know if he's still supplying his
book. It couldn't hurt to ask.

H
 
OK, check your email. There will be two files in a zip, one is pdf form, the other
as a Word doc. Let me know how you make out.

H
 
Hello
Hands On A House is still available. I am about to do a print run as I am
only out of stock.

My business premises are closed but I am working from my home office.

Use my home e-mail if you want to contact me.

[email protected]

Paul
 
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