help me about surfaces pro-e 2001 some example or tutorials

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  1. bcpolluk72

    bcpolluk72 Guest

    Hello to everyone foremost excuse me for my english (i'm italian),
    well i'd like to learn something about work with the surfaces, so i'm
    looking for some examples about it, some link about models to see how
    it was construct, or some tutorial about surfaces with pro-e 2001.
    Thanks a lot to you.
    Paolo
     
    bcpolluk72, Apr 2, 2008
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    Janes Guest

    The following is from a thread that started in this NG two years ago. You
    can find the whole archive in google groups by searching this group on
    "help". Google members can contribute to this thread. BTW, CADTrain,
    mentioned below, has since been bought by PTC and can be found on their site
    under Training.

    <begin post>
    For help with Pro/e, start with this. It's the user area of the PTC website
    which
    has several free introductory tutorials on WF & WF2:
    http://www.ptc.com/community/proewf2/newtools/index.htm

    The three listed below provide professional training courses on every
    function
    within Pro/e, including on Intralink PDM. All offer project-based, hands-on
    training. CADTRAIN is strictly CBT, everything online, downloadable training
    files, Camtasia based demos, onscreen tutorials with screen captured
    graphics.
    CADquest, on the other hand, is textbook based with downloadable training
    files.
    Those from CADTRAIN and CADquest are full, PTC-style courses and parallel
    PTC's
    course structure. Frotime, which also does CBT, has shorter, more partial
    tutorial
    style training. They're approaching course structure by offering several
    tutorials
    on the same functionality, such as Surfacing 1, 2, & 3 and Advanced
    Surfacing 1,
    2, & 3. With each costing around $15 and a Surfacing Subscription (6-8
    tutorials)
    costing $60, they have pricing structure suited to invididuals who don't
    have
    corporate resources behind them. In addition, about one into course in each
    series
    is free.

    CADTRAIN
    http://www.cadtrain.com/
    CADquest
    http://www.cadquest.com/
    Frotime
    http://www.frotime.com/

    Community Colleges and Universities: PTC has an extensive network of schools
    that
    either train students in Pro/e software or use it to teach
    drafting/modelling/engineering/design. If you know of such a school, they
    likely
    have an Educational License which lets them offer any course taught by PTC.
    Here's
    a peek at the educational version and what it contains:
    http://www.ptc.com/appserver/mkt/educational/program.jsp?&im_dbkey=33880&icg_dbkey=851
    It has the advantage of spreading what would normally be a 40 hour sprint
    through
    a ton of new material over an 8-12 week period. Lot's more opportunity to
    get
    comfortable with the software and likely new concepts of design, lots more
    tube
    time and time to ask questions of an experienced user. It's where I got most
    of my
    formal training; I highly recommend it.

    Numerous books, one by Roger Toogood, another by L. G. Lamit and several
    specifically on sheetmetal with WF2. All available on Amazon for under $60,
    they
    provide a good, broad overview of working with WF2. All by professional
    writers
    and teachers. Lamit, for example, has been teaching Pro/e for over a decade
    at De
    Anza College, Cupertino CA (Silicon Valley) and has written several books on
    Pro/e. Toogood's authored most of the Student Edition Tutorials since
    I-squared at
    least. These guys know Pro/e.

    Student Edition from Journey Ed:
    http://proestudent.com/default.asp?action=selectLocation
    for $150, you get the Flex3C version of the software ($20,000 retail value),
    help
    files and one of the above books on CD with training files in SE format.
    Pro/e was
    the first, and for a while, the only major player in solids modelling, with
    a
    Student Edition of the program plus a longstanding, comprehensive training
    program
    accessible from the SE. On your own PC, with complete autonomy, you have
    full
    access to the entire power of Pro/ENGINEER design software. And most PCs,
    with a
    decent, OpenGL-compatible graphics card, can do the job.

    PTC University:
    http://www.ptc.com/learning
    Don't underestimate learning it straight "from the horses mouth". Don't know
    what
    it takes to sign up for this, probably a year's maintenance/support
    agreement,
    paid in advance. Still, if you've got it, this is a valuable resource: what
    you'd
    get in a class, no travel involved, all you need is a terminal with pro:
    complete,
    comprehensive, convenient. Sit at home and learn from PTC. I think this is
    extremely cool. Just like their webcasts, 'How to' and 'Tips and Tricks'
    sessions.

    PTC offers, directly, and indirectly supports, more educational and training
    opportunities than any other corporation on earth. The user community lags
    pitifully behind; not much in the way of free, user developed tutorials and
    training resources available out there. I've heard of some university stuff;
    also,
    some stuff on websites, but most is out of date, scattered, fragmentary,
    partial
    elements of a comprehensive training program, and, of this, the community
    offers
    nothing.


    PTC/USER Email 'Exploder'

    http://www.ptcuser.org/exploder/index.html

    ProECentral has an active colllection of forums

    http://www.proecentral.com/portal/forum/default.asp

    Engineering Tips has a forum for each major CAD software, including Pro/e

    http://www.eng-tips.com/gthreadminder.cfm/lev2/22/lev3/70/pid/554

    http://www.mcaduser.com/

    Also called Pro/e User, this site is a collection of useful links plus a
    download
    site with, as are most, outdated files. Would be nice if they actually
    (whoever
    'they' are) tried to develop this thing. For example, they've got a list of
    sites
    called "Companies that use Pro/e". The list is lame: extremely partial and
    highly
    incomplete, missing big users in many areas. If they decided to be a little
    more
    active, open, and responsible, they'd enlist the help of actual Pro/e Users
    to
    correct their list so that it could be a valuable and reliable resource.

    http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm

    http://www.synthx.com/tom/sy_tips.htm

    http://www.elite-consulting.com/pro_engineer hints tips tricks.htm

    http://www.3dlogix.com/3dlogix/3dlogix_tutorials_01_proetfiles.htm

    Here's one suggested by Michael Corbett; though it's not tutorials, it is
    resources
    www.cadregister.com Part of thomasregister.com has models as well.

    David Janes

    ===================================================

    Thanks for taking the time, David.

    A few more (maybe useful) links ...

    http:// ....
    www.caddigest.com/subjects/pro_engineer/tutorials_proe.htm
    www.staffs.ac.uk/~entdgc/WildfireDocs/tutorials.htm
    www.me.uvic.ca/~mech410/proe_tutorials.html
    www.cad-resources.com/index.html
    technology.calumet.purdue.edu/met/tickoo/faculty/proe/proe-wf/proe-wf.htm
    www.imakenews.com/ptcexpress/
    www.profilesmagazine.com/
    www.proefaq.com/


    Sheet Metal
    www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/shtml/cadd275.pdf

    Advanced Assy
    www.cod.edu/people/faculty/wielgos/adv_asm/index_273.htm

    www.cadquest.com/books/pdf/w2_draw_options.pdf

    www.ptc.com/for/education/college_list.htm

    <end post>

    In addition, googling 'surfacing proe tutorial' turns up stuff like this:
    http://www.me.cmu.edu/academics/courses/NSF_Edu_Proj/Wildfire_short_course/tutorials.htm

    I believe a number of the references to tutorials in the included news
    article cite university authored tutorials. So colleges are a good place to
    start for basic surfacing guidance.

    Also, some general points to keep in mind about surfacing:
    1. Any feature creation method that produces solids can also produce
    surfaces
    2. When you create surfaces, you're creating the outer shell, the skin of a
    figure
    3. Open surfaces can be thickened; only enclosed, watertight volumes can be
    solidified
    4. The most important thing to learn to produce good surfaces is the datum
    plane, point, axis and curve "rigging" for your surface geometry creation
    5. Splines and conics make the smoothest surfaces; fewer points make
    smoother splines
    6. Ragged (overlapping) surface patches merge-trim the easiest
    7. Curves "dropped" on surfaces make the smoothest, most evenly blending
    patches

    Anyone care to add anything to the list? Or to the tutorial references?

    David Janes
     
    Janes, Apr 4, 2008
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