Help - How should one deal with components requiring flexibility?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by David Didelot, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. I will describe my problem with a simple example. An air cylinder
    consists of
    2 basic components - the cylinder and the rod. The easiest way to
    model the
    cylinder so that it can move properly would be to have an assembly
    containing 2
    parts - the cylinder and the rod. Now I have the freedom to slide the
    rod in and out of the cylinder. Following are some of the problems
    that arise:

    1. If I save the assembly using my companies part number for the
    cylinder as
    the file name, what should I name the cylinder and rod parts?

    2. When I use the air cylinder assembly in another assembly, how can I
    allow it
    to move? I dont want to solve it as flexible because multiple
    flexible
    instances are not allowed in one assembly. I dont want to dissolve the
    subassembly because then my feature manager tree no longer matches my
    desired
    BOM. I dont want to use configurations of the subassembly because I
    could
    quickly end up with many configurations.

    How have you guys dealt with some of these issues? Any advice would
    be greatly appreciated.

    David
     
    David Didelot, Oct 1, 2003
    #1
  2. What I would do is Have a rigid and a flexible configuration in the main
    assembly, and 3 configs in the subassembly.

    The subassembly would have a config with both the cylinder and the rod in a
    defined state "Default", and a config with only the cylinder shown
    "Cylinder", and a config with only the rod shown "Rod".

    In the Main assembly you would have 2 or 3 instances of the cylinder. In
    the rigid config you have the Cylinder in its "Default" config this is for
    drawing purposes so your BOM is correct.

    In the flexible config you would have 2 instances of the Cylinder one is the
    "Cylinder" The other is the "Rod" mate these apropriately and you have a
    flexible configuration for checking movement and clearance.

    Note that you would have any unused instances of the cylinder suppressed in
    the configuration you use to create your BOM so that your quantities are
    correct.

    Regards
    Corey Scheich
     
    Corey Scheich, Oct 1, 2003
    #2
  3. As much as I try to avoid in-context, this may be a case for it. Make the
    cylinder a part. Set the clevis on the end of the rod to be coincident to
    the end of a sketch line in the cylinder part. Set the dimension of the rod
    length by an in-context relationship in the upper assy. After you move
    stuff in the assy, a rebuild will update the cylinder.

    The problem with using flexible assy's is that, as you point out, you can
    only have one instance. However, you can create more than one config of the
    assy, and then make one of them flexible. However, flexible assy's
    sometimes don't play nicely.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Oct 1, 2003
    #3
  4. Use "dash" numbers for sub-components. Say main assy is "12345.sldasm",
    Cylinder would be "12345-1.sldprt" & Rod would be "12345-2.sldprt".

    Multiple flexible assemblies are allowed. I use them all the time. All you
    need to do is create multiple configs in your assembly & use a different one
    for each instance in the same assy.

    Matt B.
     
    Matthew A. Bush, Oct 1, 2003
    #4
  5. David Didelot

    kellnerp Guest

    This is a good use for derived configurations.

    Simply make as many derived configs as you will have need of the assembly
    and number them 1 to N. Each one can be set to flexible in the main
    assembly. Since the configs are derived any changes to the parent will be
    applied to the children.

    For part numbering the dash number approach seems reasonable. The
    alternative would be to use the same part for both cylinder and piston. Now
    that we have multibodies you can model both in the same part and have a
    single part number that covers both parts in your assembly and the assembly
    negating the need for any part number magic. Since both are revolved parts
    you can even use a contour sketch for both bodies.

    David Didelot wrote:
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    kellnerp, Oct 2, 2003
    #5
  6. Hi David,

    On the part numbering topic, we use the "standard" company part number
    and then a suffix like PARTUMBER_01, _02, _03 and alternately
    PARTNUMBER_Motor, _Shaft, etc. This works very well for us. When I
    have seen this go awry is when your numbering system pattern is
    infringed upon by these suffixes.

    For example if you have a system that has a base number NNNN-NN, these
    "slots" in the pattern should never be populated with anything other
    than the company part number. Suffix as you wish, which will
    generally not harm anything and the NNNN-NN portion will always "lead"
    the other data and keep it grouped.

    For your flexible assemblies, how ever many instances your model
    needs, regardless of nested sub-assys, that's how many unique configs
    you need for a given assy model. I consider this to be ultra lame
    thing to have to do, particularly with the emergence of PDM which
    generally locks your model at the point of release, of course with
    nobody knowing that 2 years from now, you do not have enough configs
    to support a given assy without errors . . .

    But that's another discussion for another day.

    Flexible assemblies are great, but the one-for-one instance/config
    roadblock is a real limitation that keeps this from being the great
    feature that it hopefully aspires to be.

    Regards,

    SMA
     
    Sean-Michael Adams, Oct 2, 2003
    #6
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