Embedded Dimscale Reactor

[Dan Allen]

Posted in the customer files newsgroup is a R14 drawing (saved from vanilla
2002) has an embedded reactor (maybe more) that changes the dimscale to 96 before saving, then resets it. I assume my drawing got 'infected' with this reactor by inserting or xreffing another drawing. We don't do round-trip drawing exchange and so I have no intention of maintaining the integrity of any other add-on programs such as ADT or Land Desktop.

Using superpurge by Manusoft, I can remove the reactors (I'm not sure how it works), but I'd rather develop a lisp routine that scans a drawing to see what reactors are embedded, and then has options to delete. Any pointers on reactor scanning & deleting would be helpful.

Thanks,

Dan

 

[Mark Propst]

heres a start
just to see whats loaded

;;;From: Cliff Middleton
;;;Date: 2001-09-19 09:38:14 PST
;;;Run this little doo-dad to see if there is an errant reactor you had ;;;forgotten to remove.

(defun c:reacs
(mapcar
'(lambda (reactors)
(mapcar
'(lambda (reactor)
(princ "\n")
(princ (vlr-reactions reactor))
)
(cdr reactors)
)
)
(vlr-reactors)
)
)

;my quickie

(defun ListAllReactors
(vlr-reactors)
)

(defun ListAllReactions
(foreach r
(listAllReactors)
(print (car r))
(print (cdr r))
(vlr-reactions (cadr r))
)
)

;to get rid of
;(I think this was from help files, sorry to author if that's not correct) ;;;--------------------------------------------------------------; ;;; Function: CleanReactors ;;;--------------------------------------------------------------; ;;; Description: General utility function used for cleaning up ;;; reactors. It can be used during debugging, as ;;; well as cleaning up any open reactors before ;;; a drawing is closed. ;;;--------------------------------------------------------------; (defun CleanReactors (mapcar 'vlr-remove-all 'VLR-AcDb-reactor

VLR-Editor-reactor
VLR-Linker-reactor
VLR-Object-reactor
VLR-Sysvar-reactor
VLR-Miscellaneous-reactor

)
)
)

not sure if there's specific issues with persistent reactors in removing them. check the help. good luck hth Mark

Any pointers on

 

[Doug Broad]

Mark,
I believe will only work on LISP reactors in the current namespace, not on
1) separate namespace reactors, 2)VBA based reactors, and 3) ARX based reactors.

Dan,

If you are using ADT in any part of the process, it automatically establishes a default scale (which you can specify) and which you can change. You must use the Documentation -> Drawing Setup command rather than the dimscale variable to control the aspects of drawing scale in ADT. The command name is actually: _AecDwgScaleSetup but I never type it in.

If you want to eliminate any aspect of ADT, including the smart architectural objects, you will need to use AECOBJEXPLODE. That will eliminate the dictionaries in the drawing that maintain the architectural information and will explode all the custom objects to basic autocad linework.

I encourage you to try using the ADT methods if you continue to use ADT.

Doug

 

[Dan Allen]

Luis,

Thanks - I'm short on time today to give this the attention it deserves, so I'm probably misunderstanding how I should be looking for the dictionaries, as:
Command: (vlr-pers-dictname)
"VL-REACTORS"

gives only that?

However I did use this code from acadx.com

;;;========================================================================= ===== ;;; listDictionaries ;;; ;;; Purpose ;;; Returns a list of all dictionaries defined in the current drawing ;;;========================================================================= =====

(defun listdictionaries
(massoc 3 (entget (namedobjdict)))
)

to get this:

("ACAD_GROUP" "ACAD_LAYOUT" "ACAD_MLINESTYLE" "ACAD_PLOTSETTINGS" "ACAD_PLOTSTYLENAME" "ACAD_WIPEOUT_VARS" "AcDbVariableDictionary" "AEC_DISP_REP_CONFIGURATIONS" "AEC_DISP_REP_SETS" "AEC_DISP_REPS" "AEC_DISPLAY_PROPS_DEFAULTS" "AEC_PROPERTY_SET_DEFS" "AEC_VARS" "BNS_VARIABLES")

I suppose I should cycle through deleting each one till I find the culprit.

Dan

 

[Doug Broad]

Dan,
To get rid of the behavior, given your drawing contents, you must use AECOBJEXPLODE.

 

[Doug Broad]

Dan,
I would suggest asking the Autodesk personnel on either the ADT 3.3 or ADT 2004 newsgroup as the source of your problem is probably the ADT enablers. If you are receiving these drawings from a consultant, then ask them to run AECOBJEXPLODE before they send the drawings to you.

There is a registry hack that turns off the drawing scale activity. I can't remember which registry key did it.

Can't help you with the German stuff.

Regards,
Doug

Dan,
To get rid of the behavior, given your drawing contents, you must use AECOBJEXPLODE.

Tried that:

Command: aecobjexplode
Unknown command "AECOBJEXPLODE". Press F1 for help.

Could it be a glitch with the enablers? I am constantly getting German messages regarding demand loading of the enablers.

These are the arx files loaded (A2k):
Command: arx
Enter an option [?/Load/Unload/Commands/Options]: ?
Loaded Runtime Extension Programs:

acadapp.arx - MDI Aware.
acadvba.arx - MDI Aware.
acadxtabs.arx - MDI Aware.
acdblclkedit.arx - MDI Aware.
acdblclkeditpe.arx - MDI Aware.
acdim.arx - MDI Aware.
acdimdynprop.arx - MDI Aware.
aceplotx.arx - MDI Aware.
acetdcp.arx - MDI Aware.
acetfpth.arx - MDI Aware.
acetlodr.arx - MDI Aware.
acetutil.arx - MDI Aware.
achapi15.dbx - MDI Aware.
achlnkui.arx - MDI Aware.
acismobj15.dbx - MDI Aware.
acismui.arx - MDI Aware.
aclayerp.arx - MDI Aware.
aclyutil.arx - MDI Aware.
acmatch.arx - MDI Aware.
acmted.arx - MDI Aware.
acopm.arx - MDI Aware.
acpltstamp.arx - MDI Aware.
acspacetrans.arx - MDI Aware.
acstd.arx - MDI Aware.
actoday.arx - MDI Aware.
aecarchbase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecarchdachbase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecareacalculationbase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecbase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeccbase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecclb.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclab.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclac.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclad.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclb.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclm.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecloader30.arx - MDI Aware.
aeclsc.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclsd.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclsda.dbx - MDI Aware.
aeclstb.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecluib.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecmodeler30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecschedule30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecscheduledata30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecscheduledataarch30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecstructurebase30.dbx - MDI Aware.
aecuibase30.arx - MDI Aware.
attedit.arx - MDI Aware.
cxfixcombos15.arx - MDI Aware.
doslib2k.arx - MDI Aware.
edittime.arx - MDI Aware.
fewlcaps.arx - MDI Aware.
fewlvar.arx - MDI Aware.
fscreen.arx - MDI Aware.
geom3d.arx - MDI Aware.
movebak.arx - MDI Aware.
objectdcl.arx - MDI Aware.
oleaprot.arx - MDI Aware.
preventlockerror.arx - MDI Aware.
rtext.arx - MDI Aware.
textedit.arx - MDI Aware.
units.arx - MDI Aware.
vl.arx - MDI Aware.
wipeout.arx - MDI Aware.

 

[R. Robert Bell]

DwgSetupDoAcadVars=0

in the profile's Preferences\AecBase branch.

 

[Dan Allen]

Robert,

Thanks for the tip, looks like there are other settings as well that I might want to turn off. Any insight on what they do?

\Preferences\AecBase
ViewManagementSystemDiagnostics
GeometryDiagnostics
QuickOsnaps
ObjectRelationshipGraphDiagnostics
MaintainExplodedObjectBlockProps
DwgSetupDoZZblk
DwgSetupDoAcadVars
DwgSetupDoLispVars
QuickLayerManager

Preferences\AecUiBase
UseCommonPositionForSimilarDialogs
UseCommonViewerPositionForSimilarDialogs
ShowNonCurrentVerMsgForOpen
ShowPrevVerWarningForSave

Also, my quick test of deleting all the AEC dictionaries didn't work, they are recreated at reopening of the drawing.

Dan

 

[R. Robert Bell]

I haven't bothered modifying the others, for fear of making the enabler unhappy. ;-)

--
R. Robert Bell, MCSE
www.AcadX.com

| Robert,
|
| Thanks for the tip, looks like there are other settings as well that I might | want to turn off. Any insight on what they do? | | \Preferences\AecBase | ViewManagementSystemDiagnostics | GeometryDiagnostics | QuickOsnaps | ObjectRelationshipGraphDiagnostics | MaintainExplodedObjectBlockProps | DwgSetupDoZZblk | DwgSetupDoAcadVars | DwgSetupDoLispVars | QuickLayerManager | | Preferences\AecUiBase | UseCommonPositionForSimilarDialogs | UseCommonViewerPositionForSimilarDialogs | ShowNonCurrentVerMsgForOpen | ShowPrevVerWarningForSave | | Also, my quick test of deleting all the AEC dictionaries didn't work, they | are recreated at reopening of the drawing. | | Dan | | | | | > DwgSetupDoAcadVars=0 | > | > in the profile's Preferences\AecBase branch. | > | > -- | > R. Robert Bell, MCSE | > www.AcadX.com | > | > | > | > | Dan, | > | | > | There is a registry hack that turns off the drawing scale | > | activity. I can't remember which registry key did it. | > | | > | > | |