Dimension Arrowhead Blocks

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Mike Harrison, May 23, 2006.

  1. If you are using "by layer", you add some dimensions to a drawing, then
    change some of those dimensions to a layer which is then turned off. The
    standard arrowhead blocks will still be visible because they are not on the
    layer which was turned off, but are on the original layer. (Changing the
    layer of a dimension does not change the layer that the standard arrowhead
    blocks are on)
    What determines which layer the arrowhead block will be on in the first
    place and is there any way to change that layer after the dimension has been
    placed (without exploding the dimension)
     
    Mike Harrison, May 23, 2006
    #1
  2. Are you using a custom block? It sounds like you are and it has elements on
    layers other than 0.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, May 23, 2006
    #2
  3. I have realized that I am hopelessly confused by the "By Layer, By Block,
    Layer 0" options. I am making a series of trial dwgs to try to understand
    the finer points.
     
    Mike Harrison, May 23, 2006
    #3
  4. It's a little confusing at first, because they're all chameleons really.
    What color is a chameleon? It's not simple.

    BYLAYER color and linetype, when in a block inserted on a layer "A", will
    *look* like the BYLAYER color and linetype of layer "A". It will look
    different inserted on layers that look different. Considerable flexibility.

    BYBLOCK color and linetype, when in a block inserted on a layer "A", will
    *look* like whatever the current color and linetype setting are. (They can
    also be changes later whenever you like.) If the current color and linetype
    are both BYLAYER, it will look exactly like the BYLAYER example above, but
    if you change the block's color and linetype the BYBLOCK elements in it will
    change. You could make it look the same on any layer if you want, or even
    different from on another on the same layer. It is most flexible.

    Assigning color, linetype, and layer(s)-other-than-0 will mean that the
    block will always look exactly the same, no matter where it is inserted, and
    you will only be able to control its visibility by freezing the insert
    layer, or the layer(s)-other-than-0. No flexibility.

    Layer 0 is meant to be used for elements in blocks that you wish to behave
    exactly as if they were made on the layer on which the block is inserted,
    from the point of view of visibility. If a block is made of all layer 0
    stuff, inserted on layer "A", and you turn off layer "A", the block will
    disappear. If the block elements were on layer"B", and you insert it on
    layer "A" (and layer "B" remains on and thawed) they would remain visible if
    you turn off layer "A" (because they are on "B", and the block insert layer
    is not being ignored). Freeze "A" and it will disappear because when you
    freeze the layer of an insertion, the whole block and al its contents is
    ignored. Turning a layer off only asks that elements on that layer not be
    displayed, and in the case where the block elements are on layer "B", only
    the block's insertion point is on "A".

    I suggest you play around with the various permutations if it still isn't
    clear. Remember that FREEZE and OFF are not the same thing. OFF will
    unclutter you screen to some extent, depending on the way the drawing is
    structured, by not rendering elements on that layer. FREEZE will not
    recognize or render anything associated with a layer and speed up your
    computer performance.

    In my business, most people draw using BYLAYER as a default, and therefore
    think that the main reason for layering is to make different-looking stuff.
    I use a combination of all the above strategies to get the most flexibility
    in my blocks and prettier plots, and use layering for visibility control.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, May 24, 2006
    #4
  5. I have fixed this problem now. I used to make my initial layout dwg with a
    lot of "working" dimensions on it which were later erased for the final
    version. I decided it would be better to put these dimensions on a different
    layer and then turn that layer off for the final version. The problem was
    that when I put the dimensions on a different layer and turned that layer
    off, the arrowheads were still visible. The problem was that my standard
    dimensions were created "by layer". I have now re-made my standard
    dimensions "by block" and it all works as desired. (Until the next time)
     
    Mike Harrison, May 24, 2006
    #5
  6. Your explanation of the behavior you describe cannot be. I don't think
    you've grasped what I wrote below.

    BTW, why dimension twice?
     
    Michael Bulatovich, May 24, 2006
    #6
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