so i know autolisp pretty good and i have other programing experiance. mostly simple stuff.. basic pascal html java i want to extend the funtionality, and make new lisp programs. from what i gether dcl is the way to make slick user interfaces in acad. however the help files in ADT4 suckit so mayby Mickeal B. or Pete can help me out (since ya'll seem to know what yer talking about) where can i start to learn about how to start using DCL (i need basic basic stuff. info/syntax/examples/) websites are good. thanks guys rock on my hacker biotches (Hommage to Ramzi + K.Rose)