CSWP exam

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Gil Alsberg, Oct 31, 2005.

  1. Gil Alsberg

    Gil Alsberg Guest

    Hi Everyone,
    I decided to take the CSWP exam at my near VAR. in order to be ready and in
    sync with the test requirements and question style, I wanted to try and
    solve some old CSWP exams from previous years, but I can't seem to find any
    of them on the web besides the regular sample test which appears on
    SolidWorks web site, which lacks the crucial 3rd hands on part. does anybody
    of you guys can give me some info on the test besides the formal information
    on the solidworks site? is there an additional source of CSWP exams?

    thanks,
    Gil
     
    Gil Alsberg, Oct 31, 2005
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  2. Gil Alsberg

    ken.maren Guest

    So you want us to help you cheat? :)

    KM
     
    ken.maren, Oct 31, 2005
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  3. Gil Alsberg

    Rock Guy Guest

    I get it online training offers a CSWP preparation course. Might be
    what you are looking for.
     
    Rock Guy, Oct 31, 2005
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  4. Gil Alsberg

    ed1701 Guest

    Doing a google search of this newsgroup will give you some good advice.
    One thread that came to my mind was this one:
    http://makeashorterlink.com/?S6362241C

    The models in the CSWP aren't all that hard, and don't require any
    knowledge outside of basic training classes. As I remember it it was
    more of a speed and comfort-with-the-software thing.

    VAR's tend to run bootcamps - maybe someone who has gone through one
    can comment on its usefulness
     
    ed1701, Oct 31, 2005
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  5. Gil Alsberg

    TOP Guest

    Sorry, we have to sign a non-disclosure about the content. Just make
    sure you know all areas of the software. The training manuals used by
    the VARs for SW classes are probably your best resource.
     
    TOP, Nov 1, 2005
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  6. Gil Alsberg

    Gil Alsberg Guest

    thanks for the link. Ed's comments are enlightening!
     
    Gil Alsberg, Nov 1, 2005
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  7. Gil Alsberg

    WT Guest

    Here are a couple links to past conversations. I also copied my
    discussion
    right after taking the test.

    WT


    http://groups.google.com/group/comp...WP+Tiffany&btnG=Search&meta=#5cf021035751ff94

    http://groups.google.com/group/comp...?q=cswp+tiffany&rnum=1&hl=en#a72224f440e78eda

    Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
    From: "Wayne Tiffany" <>-Find messages by this
    author
    Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:33:21 -0600
    Local: Sat, Jan 24 2004 1:33 pm
    Subject: Re: Certified SolidWorks Professional

    I was one of the very few that passed the test at SWW2004 and would
    offer some tips. If interested, read on.

    1. Go through the "What's new" in 2004 - I rudely found out the test
    was 2004, not 2003. Even if you don't use it yet, study up on the
    changes - the written test killed me.

    2. Make sure you know how to do all the basics, even if you don't
    normally use them. This would include lofts, revolves, sweeps,
    ellipses, in-context mates & features, reference geometry, symmetry,
    linking, patterns, min/max/center, external references, configs, custom
    properties, etc, etc, etc.

    3. Think about your special area - free form, sheetmetal, top-down
    design. Really know how to use all the features available - study up
    on what's available for tools & features in that area.

    4. Drawings: Multisheet, section views, detail views, all types of
    views, BOM, customizing the title block, inserting geometric
    tolerancing, standard tolerances, all kinds of dims, datums, etc, etc,
    etc.

    5. Most of all - read everything. (Did you get this far in this
    email?) Take the time to understand the design intent, read the
    scoring criteria carefully, do the work, go back and review the scoring
    criteria to make sure you covered what's required. I can't emphasize
    this point enough.

    All in all, I felt it was a good, fair test. Long day (8-5:30 - ran
    out only for coffee) but a good solid check of most of the basics, not
    just a "gimmee." The skills portion is "open book" in that you can use
    the help section, but if you have to look up much, you will run out of
    time. Most importantly, read.


    WT
     
    WT, Nov 1, 2005
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  8. Gil Alsberg

    Gil Alsberg Guest

    Wayne, thanks for the useful info. I hope I'll pass the test, because the
    idea that a computer will score my test is a little bit frightening.
     
    Gil Alsberg, Nov 2, 2005
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  9. Gil Alsberg

    matt Guest


    One piece of useful information might be to try to take the scoring
    criteria as literally as possible, even if it seems a bit silly or not
    the best way to do it. Since it is a computer that grades the model, if
    you give it what it is looking for, the results should be predictable.
    You may feel that you have to "dumb down" your models somewhat. There
    aren't any truly difficult modeling problems on the test, the main
    difficulty is understanding the criteria.

    Matt
     
    matt, Nov 2, 2005
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  10. Gil Alsberg

    TOP Guest

    That is an interesting comment. Back when I took it the scoring was
    manual. The proctor mentioned that the methods I used were quite
    unconventional (to him) but that they worked.
     
    TOP, Nov 3, 2005
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  11. Gil Alsberg

    Kvick Guest

    I got 400/400 from the Hands on part... 64/100 from the question. I
    tought that the questions were not related on how well you use SW as
    more like how well have you red the manual...

    anyhow it was still a good measurement of SW skills IMHO.
     
    Kvick, Nov 3, 2005
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  12. Gil Alsberg

    Gil Alsberg Guest

    here, at my VAR in Israel the test costs 200 US$+ 16.5% VAT (not cheap!). at
    that high price one could expect that the SolidWorks guys or the VAR guys
    (for whoever of them is scoring the exam), could at least bother and employ
    someone who will score the test manually and in an intelligent way.
    but what can a frustrated examinee expect?! :-(
     
    Gil Alsberg, Nov 3, 2005
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  13. I have taken and proctored the the exam, so I would like to share what
    I know (very little) and what I have observed. The written portion of
    the test is the "hardest" part. It's not so much that the questions
    are overly difficult, it's more a case of users not taking enough time
    with this portion of the test. The way the testing interface works,
    it's very easy to blast through and finish the (multiple choice)
    written portion in less than an hour. DON'T. Take your time, review
    each question thoroughly, and most important, review the answers before
    deciding on which one to choose. Even if you don't know the answer,
    giving it enough thought will allow you to make a better educated
    guess.

    The basic skills and even the advanced modeling aren't as difficult as
    the written portion. The most important thing is to follow the
    instructions as they appear in the handout. You might think you have a
    better way to model the examples given, and maybe you do, but the
    automatic grading software is looking for specific things and will
    deduct points if it finds otherwise. The handout will tell you what
    the grading software is looking for, exercise your model as it says and
    you can find errors before you submit the model. If the handout asks
    you to "repair" something, don't simply remodel the part. You'll get
    whacked for that too.

    Pick an advanced topic that you are familiar with. If you design a lot
    of sheet metal parts, do the sheet metal portion. Likewise, the top
    down assembly or advanced modeling. If you start to struggle early,
    you might consider bailing and moving to a different topic - you have
    that option. Be careful, no matter how well you do on the written and
    the basic skills portion, if you don't finish the advanced topic you
    probably will not pass the test.

    The grading software has been shown to be overwhelmingly more accurate
    than human grading, and provides results in a matter of minutes vs.
    days or weeks. You get to find out if you passed before you leave the
    building (in most cases).

    Look over the certification documents on the SolidWorks website, and
    try out the samples before you go for your test.

    http://www.solidworks.com/pages/services/Training/CSWP.html

    Suggestions, comments, and other notes are welcome.

    Richard
     
    Richard Doyle, Nov 3, 2005
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  14. Gil Alsberg

    neil Guest

    Suggestions, comments, and other notes are welcome

    OK that's a very good attitude you have there Richard.
    But tell me this why do we get no response to requests for improvements to
    the SW forum?
    There have been a few suggestions made there - FAQ, new user and wish list
    sections to name but a few- and although these must be read by people at SW
    no one replies to them.
    No under consideration or not at this time or.... - nothing.
    Is this an avoidance strategy? What is the problem SW has with interacting
    with people on the official forum?
    Correct me if I am wrong but there seems to be an attitude at SW that forum
    visitors and esp. newbies are an inconvenience.
    On the one hand SW are happy to engage and exploit individual goodwill to do
    beta testing on the cheap and on the other any one with individual ideas
    gets ignored or channelled into nice cosy managed little groups.
    Any comment?
     
    neil, Nov 3, 2005
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