Boundary Blend Interface question (WF3)

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by dgeesaman, Dec 11, 2006.

  1. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman Guest

    I recall in past versions (r2001) the ability to specify a defining
    curve by simply picking two points.

    The patch I'm making is 3 curves in one direction, and only the middle
    curve needs to be made from a datum curve. The 1st and 3rd curve are
    simply connecting two vertices. Does anyone know a way I can do this
    without making a datum curve to represent the 1st and 3rd curves first?

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
    dgeesaman, Dec 11, 2006
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  2. dgeesaman

    David Janes Guest

    Hard to believe that anything in Pro/e was ever that simple. But, it's been
    a few years since I used 2001 and I didn't use it more than a few months at
    Caterpillar. Or maybe this was just aspect of the interface that I didn't
    explore.
    Don't think so. You can pick a vertex as part of the boundary definition
    process. But one of the messages points out that only as the first or last
    curve. So, when you pick a vertex, then pick a curve, it creates a vertex
    blend, effectively a tri-patch surface. On the other hand, some of what used
    to happen before WITHIN an interface (the socalled 'on-the-fly' stuff) got
    transferred to outside, to the the regular datum feature creation
    mechanisms. You can interrupt feature creation to create, effectively, a
    curve on the fly. When it asks you to select a curve, just pick the curve
    creation tool, pick thru points, pick the two vertices, set tangency,
    OK/DONE, resume the boundary selection and the new curve is selected. Do the
    same for the third curve. Not a simple selection of vertices to create a
    curve, but not exactly having to do it first either. Generally, PTC seems to
    have given up on maintaining the old on the fly features as something
    completely internal to the features, at least within Dashboard driven
    functions (those identified with icons in the menus). So, you'll notice
    sketches turning up in the model tree, even if they weren't created first
    (which they can be) but which are still reuseable. In fact, from within the
    boundary blend feature, you can easily create a series of datum features
    (point/axis/curve) as the foundation of the boundary blend or as a modifying
    second direction curve. You could start the boundary blend with no curves in
    place and ctreate them as you went along. More flexibility seems to be part
    of the motivation for going in this direction. And I certainly appreciate
    that I don't have to abandon a feature and start over because I forgot to
    make it a cut instead of a solid (certainly a user driven change from years
    ago). Others seem to be GUI driven such as prehighlighting, object/action,
    select first then start some process, such as ^C/^V, or RMB for some popular
    options that are generally context sensitive. BTW, along these lines, the
    selection filter (bottom right) gives context sensitive picks for any
    functions that are converted to Dashboard. When the curve collector is
    active in the boundary blend tool, the filter has a unique set of
    selections, including vertex. Very handy tool, as is the search function,
    things I use constantly and honestly, whatever they replaced, I don't miss.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Dec 13, 2006
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  3. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman Guest

    Ahh, thank you. Mostly I was disappointed with the size of my model
    tree, as half of it was dedicated to these construction features that
    all amounted to a simple chamfer transition.

    I will explore the selection filter and nest my construction features;
    that should help significantly.

    Dave
     
    dgeesaman, Dec 13, 2006
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  4. dgeesaman

    David Janes Guest

    This was a common complaint of WF and I think WF2 addressed this with some
    "embedded" functionality. Now the workflow can be as follows: pick a datum,
    select the extrude tool, RMB 'Create internal sketch' (shich it isn't
    exactly 'internal', but it is nested under the feature, i.e., doesn't expand
    the model tree), one which is still reusable. AFAIK, they are still
    'tweaking' this aspect of feature creation and WF3 has come up with
    something else which won't make everyone happy, which will have adherents
    and detractors. To my way of thinking, it's just the transition blues,
    happens every time a new rev comes out and every user gets set back. We had
    it all set up to work just the way we wanted and kablooey, back to square
    one. Until we master the new version, we feel as vulnerable as novices, like
    newbies, serving an apprenticeship.... deja vu, all over AGAIN!!!!!
    Seems like this gets done in WF2, at least sketches get automatically
    nested. Don't know to what you refer regarding "a simple chamfer
    transition". This is a new one on me. A chamfer's a chamfer (and a
    transition?). Nor do I have any idea of what this has to do with your
    boundary blend question. Some leap is required; I'm not making it.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Dec 14, 2006
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  5. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman Guest

    I didn't provide any information about it.

    I have a pair of overlapping plates and chamfers around the contacting
    edges that represent the welding in my FEA model. Unfortunately the
    chamfer feature doesn't transition around the corner because it's not a
    right angle where the edges cross. So I used a boundary blend to make
    a smooth transition and then solidify.

    Dave
     
    dgeesaman, Dec 14, 2006
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