Autocad "Lite"

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by RobbieB, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. RobbieB

    RobbieB Guest

    I remember a couple years back seeing an inexpensive version of Autocad that
    was for hobbyists and stuff. I think it was like $100 or maybe 79.99 Does
    anyone know the name of this edition or if it's still available?
     
    RobbieB, Oct 5, 2006
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    Weird Guest

    Weird, Oct 5, 2006
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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post Weird wrote...
    Cost is $899 for a CD or $879 for download

    http://tinyurl.com/g2bnb

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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 5, 2006
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    JG Guest

    Might he be thinking of Generic Cadd? Right Price range.
    Later became Visual Cadd.
     
    JG, Oct 5, 2006
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  5. RobbieB

    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post JG wrote...
    Full Disclosure: I'm VP of the Visualcadd Users Group.

    IMHO, the best damn 2D drafting program on the market for the money. It's
    easy to learn, doesn't require huge amounts of system resources (I have a
    copy running on a Pentium II - 166 with 256K ram), and doesn't cost very
    much for the program. List price is $395 for download and $450 for CD

    If you have a copy of Generic Cadd or Autocad LT you can buy an "upgrade"
    to VCadd for as little as $109.95

    Go here for more info: http://www.tritools.com/default.htm

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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 5, 2006
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  6. RobbieB

    RobbieB Guest

    I remember part of the box design which had a rear bicycle wheel and gears
    and stuff. I know about autocad LT, I could have sworn it was by autodesk
    and it was a cheap edition for under $100 oh well.
     
    RobbieB, Oct 5, 2006
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    Al Guest

    Al, Oct 6, 2006
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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post JG wrote...
    VCadd is now in capable hands -- Tritools Partners. All the partners are
    also users. DWG compatibility is much better, but Autodesk makes the DWG
    format a moving target so VCadd isn't the only cadd program with file
    compatibility issues. VCadd is now at version 5 and version 6 is being
    worked on. The program is now way better than the IMSI version (version
    3).

    The dimensions still don't rotate with the drawing, but we now have
    Reference Frames (X-refs) which make assembling a drawing easier. They can
    be used as a form of paperspace.

    Probable the the thing I like the most about VCadd is that I can produce
    an usable drawing in half the time as most people who use Autocad. The
    program is that easy to use. And one other thing is I'm not giving huge
    amounts of money to a company (Autodesk) that doesn't care about its
    customers (but that is a topic for another day).

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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 6, 2006
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    JG Guest

    Will the new release have 2007 compatibility? Also what happens with
    "object enablers" and what it takes to represent them on the drawing? We
    still have to deal with architects using architectural desktop. Some
    architects will also have 8 or more sheets in one drawing, but use
    paperspace to separate into sheets so that if you don't have paperspace
    available, you have a sheet that is overwhelmed with layers on top of
    layers in modelspace.
     
    JG, Oct 6, 2006
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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post JG wrote...
    VCadd typically saves the multiple drawings as separate files with
    Reference Frames (X-Refs) to the "Model" drawing. This is one of the
    items that will get some work in Version 6 as it still does not function
    as well as it should. Again, the DWG format is a moving target. VCadd
    uses the OPENDWG paradigm as the basis for file conversion, but as long as
    Autodesk keeps changing the format then no other cadd software will be
    fully compatible.

    Architectural Desktop is a problem for all non-Autodesk cadd products and
    as far as I've been able to tell even older versions of Autocad won't
    properly open these files either. The format is not backward compatible,
    which in my mind is poor software design. Not to mention As far as I know
    the current version of Autocad won't even open some older versions of
    their own DWG format. Autodesk forces you to keep buying new versions at
    inflated prices. Not very consumer friendly. Sheesh! now you got me
    started (and I promised not to!).

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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 6, 2006
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  11. I think we're stuck with autocad for the time being. My hope was for
    something that I read about a while ago, that the European union was going
    to legislate a universal cad file format that all cad software companies
    would have to comply with. I think that if that ever came about, we would
    have the best of everything in that files would be universal and cad
    companies could compete on the basis of who could write the most economical,
    efficient and easy to use software.
     
    Mike Harrison, Oct 6, 2006
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    sakoguy Guest

    Autosketch is $129, you can buy it online from Autodesk. But it is a
    very cut down version of CAD.
     
    sakoguy, Oct 6, 2006
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    JG Guest

    I fully understand. My problem stays, unfortunately, with the fact that
    I am stuck with dealing with architects (and engineers) who use Autocad.
    If I can't read their files I am stuck. If they can't incorporate my
    drawings in theirs, they get p.o.'d. They pay for the high end program
    blindly because 1) they already know it (taught in college) and 2) they
    can hire tech school grads who already know how to use it.

    I have played with Intellicad, but found it to be comparatively buggy,
    but at least they could open 2004 files and the files when read by
    autocad were not screwed up with missing hatches etc. The major
    idiosyncracy on the version I tried (other than continuous lockups and
    crashes) was the inability to handle complex linetypes. Visual Cadd dwg
    files did not look right when viewed in Autocad, and vice versa. But you
    could get work done since it was stable.
     
    JG, Oct 6, 2006
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  14. I don't remember the bike wheel, but could it have been an Acad-clone like
    IntelliCAD?
    Versions of it have been free, and some went for as little as a hundred
    bucks.
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Oct 6, 2006
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    RobbieB Guest

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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post JG wrote...
    The hatch and block translation problems of earlier versions of VCadd have
    been worked. It still won't do complex linetypes (and may never do so).
    The program is not for everyone, but for those who have pretty simple
    drafting needs it works very well.

    BTW, I've not had any recent complaints (since V5 was introduced) from
    architects who get the DWG files I export from VCadd.


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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 6, 2006
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  17. That's when you need to learn how to use the layer manager.
    No I am not an architect, I'm a structural engineer.

    Chuck
     
    CHARLES FLEMING, Oct 7, 2006
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    Bob Morrison Guest

    In a previous post CHARLES FLEMING wrote...
    Chuck:

    I agree. If the layers are properly named in the first place then it is
    not too difficult to get the proper layers displayed.

    About 75% of the time I get DWG files that are a mess when it comes to
    layer names and objects on those layers.

    There is no excuse for a 3 story building to only have 7 or 8 layers with
    furniture and walls on the same layer. That's just sloppy workmanship.

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    Bob Morrison, PE, SE
    R L Morrison Engineering Co
    Structural & Civil Engineering
    Poulsbo WA
    bob at rlmorrisonengr dot com
     
    Bob Morrison, Oct 7, 2006
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    JG Guest

    Believe me, I know how to use the layer manager, but when architects
    dimension in paperspace (they use the same detail repeatedly but with
    different empahasis or xref multiple drawings out of different modules
    as in the case of a condo with the same module rotated, and re-used) the
    need for the software to be super compatible becomes inordinately
    difficult to overcome.
     
    JG, Oct 9, 2006
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    Caveman Guest

    There is a free dwg-compatible (R15) cad at http://www.a9tech.com
    but it is VERY basic, can still be used as a viewer or to do redlining.
     
    Caveman, Oct 9, 2006
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